Sailing fitness
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Topic: Sailing fitness
Posted By: Ozzytub
Subject: Sailing fitness
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 12:39pm
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I know it all depends on how seriously you take it but sort of fitness work you do apart when not sailing.
I averagely run 5 K cycle on a fitness bike 4 times a week 15mins along with some squats, some upper body weights and stomach crunches. don't know if it makes any difference, but go on something better than nothing. |
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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 3:00pm
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Cycling, Kayaking and general exercises. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 5:12pm
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Run at least 25 miles a week. Feel like I can hike forever now!
Except last weekend, which was 7 days after a 31 mile ultra-marathon, and I had the shakes after 30 minutes! |
Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 5:41pm
| I find parking the car an extra 100yds from the cake and coffee shop works well. |
Posted By: Riv
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 7:25pm
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At my age (56) It's not so much strength that's a problem but flexibility (getting under a Laser boom with a lot of vang for instance), so I do plenty of stretching, squats with weights and ride to work and back on my bike 10 hilly miles a day in total if it's not icy.
------------- Mistral Div II prototype board, Original Windsurfer, Hornet built'74. |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 7:26pm
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Busy life with family and I know by the time to relax I simply won’t do anything. I am an early riser so I do 12 minutes of intense body weight, dumbbells and sit-ups driven by an app. Get up at 5.45 to do this every weekday and probably 3 month in and a great way to start the day. We all do a brisk walk to the local Tesco at lunch, good half an hour. Do more in the summer, just plod about on the bike, longer walks etc. Couch to 5k group is starting in a few weeks in the village which considering doing. Also been low carb with a bit of Keto on and off for a year and rather than being at the top end of ideal crew weight a few pounds off the mid weight, close to two stone lost. My main motivation is make sure still sailing for many years to come. ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 Jan 20 at 7:35pm
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Pizza, cider, the odd walk.
Actually, to be fair weekly yoga has stopped me falling over with back spasms. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 7:53am
| I sometimes wonder if there are different types of fitness, yes I know strength vs aerobic. I am thinking more on the lines of the fitness style of somebody who does steady physical work all week (builder or plasterer) but nothing intense to somebody in a sedentary job who does a few short intense (gym bunny / spin ) sessions a week. |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 10:43am
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Cycle to work & home - intensive 15mins each way - 5 days a week. Swimming twice a week for 45 mins each. Yoga at home. Pilates class for an hour a week. Cycle & social walks at the weekend. Agree with a previous posting that at 58 maintaining flexibilty is the most important thing to me, especially as I'm just an average club racer. ------------- Vareo 365 |
Posted By: Ozzytub
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 12:50pm
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I hadn't thought about flexibility, certainly need to add some form of stretching in my routine. I always try to ensure I use the stairs, walk a little further for my cakes also. 
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 1:01pm
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For me its running three times a week 5k when its lighter in the evenings but this time of year I tend to cycle for 45 minutes instead as its just too nasty out there. Twice a week I do weights and I try to sail twice a week. I also cycle 10 mins to and from work on a single speed (easy on way / hard on way home!) and weirdly have a desk I stand up at which had a huge impact on core strength compared to sitting all day long! ------------- H2 #115 (sold) H2 145 OK 2082 |
Posted By: E.J.
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 1:57pm
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I think it depends on the type intensity you need to hit your target competition. I’d classify sailing in wind as more aerobic endurance than out and out Cardio workout, so not absolutely gasping for breath but a constant heavy 02 intake from a mix of low resistance weight (pulling rope) and prolonged endurance (hiking). Due to that I don’t go crazy with Cardio maybe 10k runs over a week and adding at least 3 resistance sessions with mid range weights on high reps, trying to avoid building to much power and therefore weight through high weight low reps. I suppose this is driven from a class that allows pumping and therefore demands a relatively high % of resistance work but also has less hiking so my cardio needs are not so pressing. ------------- |
Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 4:30pm
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It's a 15-minute walk to my local. Longer and more wobbly on the return so I'd say a 40 minute walk 3-times a week :-) ------------- Lightning368 'All the Gear' (409), Lightning368 'Sprite' (101), Laser (big number) 'Yellow Jack', RS Vareo (432)'The Golden Rays' |
Posted By: By The Lee
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 4:46pm
| To have the greatist impact the training should aim to be as close to the actual thing as possible. For example to build hiking fitness there is no substitute for time spent actually hiking when sailing or on a hiking bench. Micheal Blackburn's book is an excellent rescourse for physical preparation in all classes. |
Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 4:58pm
I think it was Steve Cockerill who wrote an interesting article saying that in terms muscle group balance hiking is very one sided and can lead to knee injuries unless you're also doing some training on the hamstrings to balance the quads. Apologies if I've remembered that completely wrong! |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 6:23pm
Less than £10, slightly different step now, gets used 5 days a week. ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 23 Jan 20 at 6:27pm
I work a lot on hip flexibility as I find I get stiffness / pain in this area. ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 1:51pm
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Well I kind of view it the other way round, looking at sailing as a means of exercise to keep me as up to speed as I can expect to be in my advancing timeline.
Long since not interested in the sort of championship winning routines of yesteryear and in all probability wouldn't be able to prosecute them without injury which is the biggest annoyance the passage of time has forced upon me, and even the most tedious thing can bring about hamstring agony (just doing a small bottom turn windsurfing brought one on and groin straining kicking the centreboard, all very tedious and my logic regarding boats being, if I do sustain an injury, I can at least just fall into the boat and get back to shore. As for general fitness which I do try to keep to a reasonable level,(because it's good for your brain, oxygenated blood flow) I run or ride a mountain bike with the dogs twice a day, not far half to 3/4 hour, but its everyday come what may fair weather or foul, that's the discipline dogs bring to your world. And if I feel keen, I might chuck in a few press ups, chin ups, sit ups, nothing like the hundreds I used to do back in the day, but just enough to keep all the bits working. I'm coming up 72, and it does get a bit tougher and more painful as each decade passes.. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 4:11pm
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Without doubt, cycling is best in being low impact and have the cowards (like me) option of throwing it on rollers inside if the weather is bad. I know this thread is about fitness, but I thought my hiking sailing was over after a knee OP, but low gear cycling got me back.
Most of the runners of my age have either stopped or have regular visits to medics of some kind |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 24 Jan 20 at 6:00pm
| I fall back on a working life of manual work for grinding stamina, high intensity efforts leave me blowing a bit nowadays but I quickly recover to complete the longest day without suffering. My wife and I both mountain walk and non technical mtb over hilly trails. |
Posted By: bdu98252
Date Posted: 27 Jan 20 at 2:15pm
Without any context to a non sailor coming round that house I wonder what they would think the inhabitants were into.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 27 Jan 20 at 7:18pm
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bdu98252 Comes in useful with some other special interest groups I’m in ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Ozzytub
Date Posted: 30 Jan 20 at 2:15pm
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I need to increase my cycling as I had a knee op some time back and now the pain is back.(knee replacement has been suggested)
Just want to get the best from this old body beforehand, as for the first time I have the money for a new boat and want to give it my best. If only I had the money when I was young and fit |
Posted By: johnbrooker
Date Posted: 31 Jan 20 at 12:10pm
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When I can keep to my weekly fitness routine this is what I do: Monday: HIIT (10 mins)/ Lift weights (20 mins) Tuesday: Rest Wednesday: Run (30 mins) Thursday: Rest Friday: HIIT (10 mins)/ Lift weights (20 mins) Saturday: Sail Sunday: Sail/ Run (30 mins) Make sure you have at least one rest day and if you are tired/ stressed don't push your body too hard. If you want to put on muscle make sure you eat enough calories before & after exercise. I like peanut butter, oatcakes and raisins as a snack. Plus the occasional protein shake ------------- https://dinghyracingtips.com" rel="nofollow - Dinghy Racing Tips Blog https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_-XsHqQUPXWd-cuuPZIUqQ" rel="nofollow - Sailing Tips YouTube Channel |
Posted By: elzorillo
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 7:27pm
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Stuck to the same fitness regime for the past 30 years (previous to that in my late teens/early 20s I was an active sponsored cyclist but a dodgy hip from a climbing accident put pay to that). So thirty years of.. Mon/Wed/Fri ...I'm in the boxing gym 1.5hours. Still at 55y & 3wks I train with the younger guys but have seen a deteriation in strength in the last couple of years and no sparing for a good few years due to reactions deteriorating. Thurs cycling... 20-30miles offroad. Any more and the old hip injury aches. Sat/Sun.. Sailing. Only took it up about 6 years ago due to the realisation I was never going to be any good at windsurfing. To be blunt.. I dont think it's that imperative to be fit for sailing unless you're hitting the water a lot. I've been beaten (still am) many times by blokes who get out of breath pulling their centerboard up. Main benefit of the above is being the exact same weight/build I was 30 years ago but i would say the benefit to sailing is marginal.
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Posted By: KazRob
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 7:29pm
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A tiny bit off the topic, but just stumbled across an indoor winch grinding machine. Is that the next big thing after indoor cycling or rowing?
https://www.nohrd.com/uk/watergrinder-oak.html ------------- OK 2249 D-1 138 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 7:46pm
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You would have to think of a trendy title for type of exercise ? 'et sedens molere fecerunt' ESMF
------------- Robert |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 8:10pm
My gym had a less designer version a good 5 years ago. I was the only one that used it, it got removed soon after I joined the gym ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 8:21pm
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Didn't prisoners get something similar in the 1800's. ------------- Robert |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 02 Feb 20 at 9:48pm
Well I've just done 1 ½ races in a gusty F2-4 this afternoon and am knackered. My poor to average results are down, 50/50, to fitness and skill. Main benefit of the above is being the exact same weight/build I was 30 years ago but i would say the benefit to sailing is marginal.
[/QUOTE]A good goal in itself, I'm about the same as I was 20 years ago at nearly 67 but not so fit. Definitely need to get a little back if I can. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 7:11am
For me it about still being sailing when I’m 70 and for that fitness now will matter ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: elzorillo
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 8:27am
Thats a very good point and something I've never considered. |
Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 1:39pm
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I bought a Solo to keep fit ... now I keep fit to sail my Solo ------------- Happily living in the past |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 5:06pm
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Bought my Streaker because I’d have to loose weight to be competitive- after four years finally hit the magic 73kg optimum weight this week ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 5:29pm
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Had my first real swim for a couple of years last sunday, after a mare of a gust in a gybe, then capsize, then freak out because the sheets were wrapped round my legs, then a turtle with mast stuck in the mud, then eventual release, splash back, boat starts blowing down wind on its side, so a sprint swim to get to it. The moral of the tale, if you aint fit, you aint going to cope with sh*t like that, lucky for me No 3 daughter bought some new scales for Christmas made me get on them, have been pounding the pavement every day since to lose 3 kilos of blubber which I am sure helped the sprint swim. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 5:45pm
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Weight is lost in the kitchen not the gym 😀 ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 6:59pm
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Spot on there Tink. I spent a whole summer training for the Great North Run, got stronger and tighter but never lost a pound. Now more than ten years on and into mid sixties, still working but no training, changed diet and gone from nudging over 75kg to less than 70kg in 9 months without really trying too hard.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 7:17pm
Low carb - a little over two stone in a year ------------- Tink https://tinkboats.com http://proasail.blogspot.com |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Feb 20 at 7:37pm
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Each to his own, and although I preach the 'nothing tastes like skinny feels' to the girls, I've always been of the belief that upping the exercise is easier than reducing the calory intake, and it works for me. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 9:57am
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For me it has to be a combination. I found cutting our snacks between meals but eating what I like as a reward at meals combined with a decent amount of exercise to be the most effective because I can do it for a long time - the lack of snacks sucks but eating well / tasty food at meal times is a trade off I can live with! ------------- H2 #115 (sold) H2 145 OK 2082 |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 10:06am
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If you burn more calories than you eat you'll lose weight, eat more than you burn you'll gain. Anything else is irrelevant. But to exercise more and/or eat less may require coping strategies so, if you need/want to lose weight do what ever allows you to achieve that aim. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 12:03pm
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I eat absolutely anything that I want. Never considered any form of 'diet'....ever. I'm 53yrs old, 6Ft tall, hit 11 1/2Stone at about 16 and have barely budged above or below that in the subsequent years. I'd say, though, that I'm pretty active - through the Summer - and used to do a lot of running, MTB etc. However, what I would say is that I'm probably now the most unfit that I've ever been in my life. Even as a foetus I was probably fitter :-D People I take sailing are often surprised at how physically demanding our sport actually is. Whether you're pottering around or giving it the Ainslie-Beans racing. This year, as well as getting to grips with the Contender, I'm determined to at least grab back some of the actual fitness that I've lost in recent years. ------------- Lightning368 'All the Gear' (409), Lightning368 'Sprite' (101), Laser (big number) 'Yellow Jack', RS Vareo (432)'The Golden Rays' |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 Feb 20 at 5:21pm
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Didn't realise you'd graduated to a Contender Fleaby, how's it going, looks like I'm headed that way...
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