Watches and drysuits
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Watches and drysuits
Posted By: ifoxwell
Subject: Watches and drysuits
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 11:56am
I'm about to start dinghy sailing again properly after a few years away so of course, given the time of year, the first thing Ive done is get myself a new drysuit.
Which reminds me or a problem that i am hoping some one can help with.
I like many people, use a standard cheap sailing watch, with a normal strap, for racing timing etc. The trouble is it never fits around my wrist once ive got all the layers if clothing on and gloves etc.
What should i do... ideas please. Preferably ones that dont involve spending any more money :-)
Thanks
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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 12:16pm
cut a watch size hole in the drysuit wrist 
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 12:53pm
Originally posted by ifoxwell
I'm about to start dinghy sailing again properly after a few years away so of course, given the time of year, the first thing Ive done is get myself a new drysuit. Which reminds me or a problem that i am hoping some one can help with. I like NOT many people, use a standard cheap sailing watch, with a normal strap, for racing timing etc. |
I seem to remember you giving us a thrashing in a very expensive 29er some years back in the round sheppey, pony up for big yellow, you tightwad.
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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 12:57pm
Seen them round bottom of Masts and on centre board case.
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Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 2:09pm
fit a tacktick on to the boat and use that.
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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 2:10pm
Thanks to Oli and Grumph for their valued suggestions . I used to wear mine over the drysuit cuff - the neoprene / latex bit, and push the outer layer back in the pre-start. I think that all the under-layers should be away from the seal as it will just let COLD water seep in and we don't want that, do we?
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Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 2:11pm
cheaper go to a craft/ haberdashery shop or amazon and buy a length of heavy duty Velcro and make your own extra long strap for your existing watch.
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Posted By: Ian99
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 4:20pm
I just push the dry suit cuff a bit further up my arm on the watch side, with the watch just going around my wrist as it would with normal clothing. This may need an inch wide bit of skin exposed to the weather between dry suit and glove, but it doesn't get cold.
The one I have more difficulty with is long arm wetsuits as you can't comfortably push them up your arm. I suppose I could cut a bit off the end of one of the wetsuit arms, but the watch does just fit around the outside so I've not bothered.
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Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 4:45pm
Could you read it if you put it round your buoyancy aid shoulder strap?
I know my aging eyes couldn't read it that close, but I've see many youngsters do it.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 5:32pm
Don’t wear the gloves, they are a marketing gimmick. I sail all year without gloves and never get cold hands like I did when I wore gloves.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 5:41pm
Big yellow for £40 on Facebook dinghies and bits currently...
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Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 5:51pm
After having two yellow watches fail and having nil after sale support, I wrote the option off and bought a better watch.
Is the latest model worth considering?
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 6:16pm
Gone through plenty of big yellows. Ronstan ClearStart holding up ok (family has two). Never take them on hot holiday either plane pressure or heat destroys them. Check the actual water proof rating some are only rated to get wet not swim etc
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Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 6:27pm
Reassuring to hear, I thought I was just unlucky
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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 7:34pm
On the topic of gloves, it’s more about not shredding your hands than any temperature benefit. Wet gloves are never going to keep your hands warm.
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Posted By: ColPrice2002
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 7:54pm
Hi,
Look up "Animal watch strap" - buy one long enough!
Cheap gloves from Screwfix or Toolstation will last a few months for about £1.80 per pair.
Colin
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 7:57pm
It is interesting some charts say 10 atmospheres for swimming and some say 5 atmospheres are OK.
The yellow watch spec says ‘Now more durable in water resistency, an increase from 3 ATM to 5 ATM’ - so the original ones are not suitable for swimming.
Gill 3 or 5 ATM depending on model Ronstan 5 ATM
So none really robust, and all compromised when you change the battery. You can get a solar (no batteries to change) Casio to 10 ATM for £35.
Stop press - daughter has just told me there is condensation in her Ronstan - she rarely capsizes so mainly spray and launching.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by Noah
On the topic of gloves, it’s more about not shredding your hands than any temperature benefit. Wet gloves are never going to keep your hands warm. |
Unless you trimming a big spinnaker still not necessary. You may get blisters for a few weeks but use Norwegian hand cream after sailing and your hands get tough enough. You rarely see an Olympic sailor with gloves.
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 9:18pm
I think a fair few do
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 9:27pm
Loads do. Better grip, neoprene backed gloves warmer.
"Manning up" "Gloves are for wimps" heard all this before.
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 9:29pm
Builders gloves are the in thing I believe (so Zhik sell them for 5x the price of Screwfix) great in Barcelona but, while they do grip well, they are bl00dy cold in winter when wet.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by Rupert
Loads do. Better grip, neoprene backed gloves warmer.
"Manning up" "Gloves are for wimps" heard all this before. |
Wasn’t intending to make some macho statement but advise. I have all sorts of gloves but actually have found them more hassle than a benefit. The key is applying the hand cream which is the game changer - don’t think applying hand cream is a particularly macho piece of advice.
I always wear gloves on a rib in winter when moving less and less feel and dexterity needed. Poly pro liners under neoprene or fleece gloves under thick black trade rubber gloves.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 10:12pm
True, I like Norwegian hand cream. TCP was the "man up" weapon of choice.
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 05 Dec 19 at 10:56pm
I wonder if "Norwegian Hand Cream" will help my again fingers cope with a mix of sailing and guitar playing. Sailing hammers your fingers and joints (which you need for guitar playing) while softening up your fingertip calluses.... I love doing both but sailing may be harming my guitar playing and I'd hate to have to give up one for the other .
The dichotomy is that if I continue sailing until I can't anymore my fingers will be so knackered that I can't play either.......
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 5:29am
Originally posted by Rupert
True, I like Norwegian hand cream. TCP was the "man up" weapon of choice. |
When I was a kid we used to soak our feet in meths to harden them up for hiking.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 6:52am
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons
I wonder if "Norwegian Hand Cream" will help my again fingers cope with a mix of sailing and guitar playing. Sailing hammers your fingers and joints (which you need for guitar playing) while softening up your fingertip calluses.... I love doing both but sailing may be harming my guitar playing and I'd hate to have to give up one for the other .
The dichotomy is that if I continue sailing until I can't anymore my fingers will be so knackered that I can't play either....... |
Hope you can keep both going 😀
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 7:00am
Isn’t it more pleasant to just wear fingerless gloves than soak your hands in tcp or turps?
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 8:25am
Originally posted by A2Z
Isn’t it more pleasant to just wear fingerless gloves than soak your hands in tcp or turps? |
Yes, but hand cream is nice whether wearing gloves or not!
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 9:23am
I used to not wear gloves until my wife refused to let me near her with my sandpaper hands. Now I wear gloves :-)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 9:34am
Rather than wearing gloves to touch your wife (too much info!), wear them sailing to keep them smooth... ;)
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Posted By: RTFM
Date Posted: 06 Dec 19 at 12:08pm
Please watch the film 'The 12th Man' (2017) - you don't know what cold is after watching this...
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