Transaction fees
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Transaction fees
Posted By: andymck
Subject: Transaction fees
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 7:07pm
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Was surprised to see there is a transaction fee for the dinghy show. I understood that became illegal in January or have companies already found a loophole?
Andy ------------- Andy Mck |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 7:23pm
| AIUI it was only made illegal to charge them for cards and not for cash and other forms of payment. |
Posted By: Tynesider
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 7:32pm
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It's also one of the very few events/shows that does not have any concessionary rates,we have not booked in case of the severe weather changes so two pensioners and we have to pay £32.00.
Maybe they think anyone over 60 cannot sail  ------------- Archivist for the Colvic Watson Owners Group |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 7:36pm
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There are cheaper rates for RYA members and groups.
Seems to be that the only way you can pay is by card, and quite clearly states a transaction charge. Just a way of putting up price by 15 percent. ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: Cirrus
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 7:59pm
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'Stealth' charges .... just like 'admininstration charges' and similar. Obvious modern day b**locks ... Not many are fooled ... and most never exactly trust 'you' thereafter. Come along - Grow a pair and hit us punters with unified charges.. we don't care how 'you' want to split the charges down and don't believe you anyway when you do indulge with this sort of rubbish.. Plain speaking for plain charges .... Damn it - we can take it really ! |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 9:16pm
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 9:21pm
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I don't like that the RYA use a 3rd party for their events, including such things as instructor days. Too much information going to people who will then sell it on, plus those "admin" charges. And, if anything unusual comes up, like needing a free kid's ticket when setting a wrist band, you still have to go through the RYA anyway.
Luckily, I have a free ticket including lunch this year! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 9:36pm
Over 60's is probably the biggest market for a sailing show! Can't offer them a discount otherwise the whole thing would be a loss!
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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 9:47pm
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I suggest people start reading the small print and understand what they are being asked to agree to and opt in to.
Many of us have got into the habit of ticking boxes to opt out of stuff, but with GDPR you have to opt in, so ticking the boxes out of habit is a sure way of handing over your details to anyone who wants them! ------------- OK 2129 RS200 411 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 10:17pm
Another way of looking at it would be to consider it a bulk discount. |
Posted By: Cirrus
Date Posted: 27 Feb 18 at 11:13pm
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Another way of looking at it would be to consider it a bulk discount. No that is itself mostly just another way of justifying the 'additional' charge/cost. .... more 'marketing speak' weasel words really. For goodness sake just say it like it is ... |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 12:01am
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In a similar vein it annoys me that very few online retailers show carriage charges until you reach the final payment page of their system. That means I spend 10 minutes choosing an item or two, adding them to my 'basket' (or worse still 'cart') only to discover at the last instant that the 'carriage' costs twice as much as the item itself (or, at least, costs a five times as much as the other retailer who sells the item for only a couple of quid more)......... It's one of the few benefits of buying on ebay that the carriage is visible up front (you can even rode your search for "price plus carriage" meaning what it actually costs to get the bl00dy thing to your front door).
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Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 10:55am
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 1:51pm
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Specific card fees were made illegal (due to abuse by many companies). You can still charge a booking fee or transaction fee (so a card charge by another name). ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Old Timer
Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 1:56pm
Here here .... we are not stupid ... just show us the bottom line.
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Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 6:42pm
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the RYA need to be careful with charges- we may all notice that less than 20% of the show is new each year, and there is a limit to the reasonable cost of meeting a few mates as we walk round
although to be fair, the Proctor centenary display shows a little more effort to make it a show |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Feb 18 at 7:57pm
| I think the show is excellent value - cheaper for a family than a trip to cinema (ignoring the hideous cost of the train to get there)! |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 7:15am
| What's the latest you can buy the online ckets? We want to make a last minute decision on going this year due to the Beast from the East coming west. |
Posted By: zippyRN
Date Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 6:23pm
the model comes from the old days of internet shopping before the courier firms modernised , and weight / size based pricing kicked in fairly early - also sometimes you cant give shipping prices until you know what is in the order
in current workplace can;t tell you which shipping method we'll use until you have ordered the goods and specified your delivery address ( as click and collect uses internal transport but deliveries to home or work place can use royal mail for some things and /or courier for anything ) Ebay shipping is generally a bit of a scam as sellers often charge far more than the price of the carriage |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 9:16pm
a poor excuse these days though as the shipping is almost always banded according to price. Some online retailers have a shipping cost shown on the website, it ain't rocket science, I try to avoid dealing with those who keep it hidden.
so you list two or three shipping prices up front, that way I know add it to my how much it's going to cost me before I add it to my order, and also if I can reach a free carriage option by buying an extra item.
That virtually disappeared several years ago when ebay started charging commission on the buying price plus postage. These days if the shipping for a large/valuable item is more than £15-20 it's 'cos the seller is in the US and you've more to concern you than shipping. I do understand that some items like sails and spars (and other such large items) will incur a much higher shipping cost than a spray top or a few blocks but there is no reason why a basic carriage charge for smaller items shouldn't be shown up front.
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Posted By: zippyRN
Date Posted: 03 Mar 18 at 12:10am
re writing the entire code base of a e-commerce system is not something undertaken lightly with regard to my point about the choice of delivery method price might not be a factor but when you want it by can be a factor ... |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 03 Mar 18 at 8:46am
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Fair enough but my point is that it's dead easy to have a list of delivery options with the cost accessible somewhere on the site like this https://www.mailspeedmarine.com/delivery" rel="nofollow - https://www.mailspeedmarine.com/delivery . ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Tynesider
Date Posted: 03 Mar 18 at 9:04pm
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Hi Gents
It is illegal to charge extra fees for using any credit card from January 13th 2018 see here https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/cards/2018/01/cards-fees-to-be-banned-from-saturday#reportit ------------- Archivist for the Colvic Watson Owners Group |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 04 Mar 18 at 9:00am
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You are right but it doesn't prevent them charging an admin fee as long as it's the same for all methods of payment. " ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: Tynesider
Date Posted: 04 Mar 18 at 9:19pm
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Went to the Dinghy show today and no problems or admin fee, the ticket price was what you paid.
Considering the weather over the last week a good show and busy today  ------------- Archivist for the Colvic Watson Owners Group |