Two topic forum
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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: Two topic forum
Posted By: H2
Subject: Two topic forum
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 12:56pm
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Hi - been hanging around this forum a bit recently. Most subjects seem to end up with the same people arguing about one of two topics: 1. Handicap vs Class racing. 2. PY / GL conspiracy theory Should I just get used to it and look elsewhere or is that the limit of whats discussed?
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Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:04pm
No, if you scroll down to the what boat section you'll find endless discussions about which boat is suitable for double handing with kids and partners and also single handing too. It seems nobody has designed anything suitable yet so perhaps there's a gap in the market...  |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:09pm
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Repetitive stress syndrome, keep typing PY & GL
There are lots of topics not covering above, I recently started a topic about electric cars!!! |
Posted By: zeon
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:13pm
| The short answers is yes. The forum is not what it was, for a lot of reasons. Sign of the times. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:16pm
| Sadly there's a lot of truth in that. |
Posted By: Eisvogel
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:18pm
Probably a conspiracy by the GL/PY committees.  ------------- Enterprise 20361 (Eisvogel), Laser 102727 (Halcyon), Laser 121986 |
Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:22pm
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but surely there are only 5-6 people involved with posting anyway?
those of us trying to get involved are either ignored or rubbished which is why people look and dont post |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 1:56pm
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There's a simple solution, post about something else we're all as bored as the next man and just as eager to talk about boats, bits of kit etc, the trouble is lots of it has already been done. Forums can be very transient places if you don't participate, I read lots of stuff, just because folk don't respond doesn't mean the contribution is any less valuable.
Every Troll knows unless you post something outrageous that sets their eyebrows twitching and smoke comes for their ears, 'they' will never post. You have a boat lots of us are interested to read about, how about a couple more tales in that section where you get to talk about recent outings (forget what it's called but there's a heading somewhere). ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 2:34pm
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There's few topics which do the rounds, one of which is a new thread every other year or so questioning the breadth of conversation going on on the forum, and the quality of the contribution. Seems it's here again... and thus signalling a retreat to private chats on WhatsApp and closed groups on Facebook again.... shame, but a sad reality of no longer living with Web 1.0
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Posted By: DiscoBall
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 3:00pm
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Pretty much seems a feature of internet forums generally. In fact also seems quite prevalent in real life in clubs of all types - couple of popular contentious themes of conversation and occasional forays elsewhere. I suspect you could actually copy posts from old threads to a new topic on a similar theme and nobody would actually notice...
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:15pm
It is all a little cliquey...the same crowd responding to the same people and if your not one of them they just ignore your posts as if you are not worth engaging with. The weird thing though is that they all seem to dislike each other, perhaps its some kind of S&M thing where they get a kick by coming on here and beating each other up?! I was wondering if it was just me that was invisible
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:19pm
I do not spend long on forums but the one I know best is SELOC which is for people who own Lotus cars - its totally the opposite of this forum - so perhaps I had unrealistic expectations about what can happen when you get a bunch of strangers together that share a passion for a past-time. They are actually nice to each other and super helpful, plus they can engage in a whole range of topics all related to small plastic cars built by turnip farmers!
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:25pm
I will post up some thoughts of ownership in the coming days - still lots to learn
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Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:31pm
You're forgetting the 'Death of the Laser class' threads. We've not had one of them for a couple of weeks. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:36pm
Back on the Sailjuice GL conspiracy theory then? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 5:36pm
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H2 and Ian.r, it isn't that you posts aren't read, they are. It is just that on threads about PY conspiracy theories, views are so entrenched that no one will change his (in this case, rarely her) mind on anything, so few posts are directly answered except to have a good rant.
Even fairly recently, there have been some other interesting threads, but it is only the ones where people disagree that there is enough to comment on to get decent thread length. Normally, though, there is good, if odd and hard to spot, humour in the threads. Been missing from the recent PY thread, though. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 6:02pm
Or foiling is the future!! AKA - the people’s foiler |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 7:54pm
I'm fairly recent as a regular contributor (joined in 2014 but didn't post much until last summer when I was getting back into racing) and don't recognise any of those experiences. Yes there is aoocasionall 'robust' discussion and the odd bit of trolling but it's considerably more civilised than some of the US based forums I have visited. For what it's worth, I hope both of you continue to post on here and contribute to whatever interests you ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 8:57pm
I have been to the Lotus factory as a supplier, I told that my Dad had worked with Colin at British Aluminium. The Lotus engineer said " Colin who?" says it all! |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 10:01pm
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I have been to the Lotus factory as a supplier, I told that my Dad had worked with Colin at British Aluminium. The Lotus engineer said " Colin who?" says it all!
I have no idea who Colin is either ???
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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 10:05pm
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He was a nice Chap that man...... ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 10:20pm
| OK got it, Colin Chapman, still need to Google to see who he is and what he has done. |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 10:43pm
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Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 22 Nov 17 at 10:56pm
| So why has Caterham been unable to get past building Colin Chapman Super 7 derivatives despite numerous attempts to break out Eg. Caterham 21 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 8:09am
Because they have a strong class association and fun open meetings. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 9:26am
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Because they are an unbelievably inefficient organisation with absolutely dire customer service I am reliably informed by one of my ex reps and a Caterham owner.
In fact they should take up dinghy building, they'd fit right in. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 9:34am
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Just what we need, another SMOD builder. They don't treat their suppliers any better.
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Posted By: ttc546
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 11:37am
Try the Sailing Anarchy forums. Its a brutal war zone there. Post there at your peril ... Y&Y is mild by comparison. ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 11:57am
| The big advantage of SA is that they don't suffer fools gladly. I've never had anything like the level of personal abuse and accusations of corruption I've had here. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 12:13pm
Which is surprising considering the high content of fools present on it, not entirely limited to the posters. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 4:13pm
| i’ve Never seen fellow posters called Paedos here, or had their identities blown in such a disgusting manner either Jim... as for fools, there are plenty on there for sure. |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 23 Nov 17 at 4:24pm
+1... just so you don't feel ignored or rubbished. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: iiiiticki
Date Posted: 24 Nov 17 at 10:16pm
| Personally I hardly bother any more, same old people very few young people and women!!! What! I tried to promote the class I represent and the old guard accused me of criticizing the sacred Laser....even an Australian was rude to me! We wouldn't let you enter our worlds next year even if you were thin enough. |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 24 Nov 17 at 10:35pm
| Start your own threads, never react to negative or critical posts. |