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Best Value For Money Single Hander <£1k

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Topic: Best Value For Money Single Hander <£1k
Posted By: JohnJack
Subject: Best Value For Money Single Hander <£1k
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 1:57pm
Got asked by a new club member (intermediate level) about a week ago.

I have £1k to spend on a single hander, what should I get?

This lead me to hit the 'markets' and have a look at second hand boats for <£1k to see what you could get.
I found the varying prices of second hand boats (comparable by age/condition) across different classes quite interesting cost wise.

So say it was a purely a cost driven question (not fussed by class at local club and we will take the sailors height/weight out of the question to simplify things too)

What is the best you can do for <£1k with the understanding that anything you are going to get is going to have a few years on it.

My findings
Wooden Solo's built by Thresher or Crenshaw (reputable builders) in the low to mid 3000's  (around 30 years old)

Laser's tend to be pretty bashed up and still in the 5 digit range

what else is there Phantoms, Streakers 










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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 2:07pm
A £1k phantom might be good for a giggle but wont be comptetive on the std PY. To be fair if you shop around you could get a decent 130,000 number Laser with the full XD kit for that. 

Possibly a decent Streaker although I am not sure how they stack up against the new breed.



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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 2:10pm
My EPS was good value within that budget.

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Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 2:18pm
Not suitable for your itermediate, but you would get an old contendor for that money, or lots of Topper for people a tad smaller.

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 2:39pm
As you're not going to get even close to a Championship or even Open meeting winning boat no matter what, forget about value for money and all that nonsense and get the boat that's most likely to enthuse you into getting out of bed in the morning and heading down the sailing club. Ultimately nothing else matters.


Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by JimC

As you're not going to get even close to a Championship or even Open meeting winning boat no matter what, forget about value for money and all that nonsense and get the boat that's most likely to enthuse you into getting out of bed in the morning and heading down the sailing club. Ultimately nothing else matters.

100% agree with the sentiment, but not completely accurate... my race board was £800; in the right hands it could win championships.  

(and before others chime in saying 'not a boat, blah, blah'... the International Raceboard Class is an ISAF approved / regulated class)

If stuck on fixed masts and ruddered craft, then an old Blaze might fit the bill nicely.  


Posted By: salmon80
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 3:19pm
My Lightning was within that budget, It's won opens without any further spending and was 4th at the nats


Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 3:28pm
low rider Int Moth.

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Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 5:50pm
I'm going go say this before Rupert does. For £1000 you could buy a Minisail, give it new ropes and sail, and still have change for 2 weeks in the Canaries!

Big smile


Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 7:13pm
Lightning is best bargain but not many around. I also agree that Tony Thresher's Solos are indeed excellent value

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 8:31pm
There is a reason I own Lightnings and Minisails! £100 for my Minisail, which has won lots of stuff, and I've had others for free or much less in the past, £300, £500 and £650 for the 3 Lightnings. All are capable or have won opens.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 9:35pm
Well for £1000 I might be persuaded to part with my Minisail, with its nice red centreboard freshly painted..

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Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 9:39pm
Hahahahahahahahahaha!


Posted By: Late starter
Date Posted: 04 Mar 16 at 11:08pm
Bought daughter #1 an immaculate 130k Laser last year for £900, and added a replica Rooster radial rig for a bit over £200. So a tad over the OP's budget, but competitive at club level assuming that, like my club, replica kit is allowed for club events.  


Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 05 Mar 16 at 8:23am
For pure giggles and entertainment you get one hell of a bang from a 600
http://sailingdinghies.apolloduck.com/listings.phtml?cid=113&sti=12



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Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 05 Mar 16 at 8:36am
I think I did a similar threat last year, john. the general consensus being that for the budget a laser is the safest option - more predictable, always going to find someone else to race against


Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 05 Mar 16 at 7:11pm
Originally posted by sawman

I think I did a similar threat last year, john. the general consensus being that for the budget a laser is the safest option - more predictable, always going to find someone else to race against

And you'll not lose much when you sell it.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 05 Mar 16 at 8:36pm
Another word for safe might be boring, of course...

Contenders are also available for that kind of money or less, which would be a lot of giggles per £.

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Mar 16 at 8:37pm
Its likely, of course, that the more complex the £1,000 pound boat you buy is the greater the maintenance overhead, which is something to consider.


Posted By: chris_wht
Date Posted: 06 Mar 16 at 6:00pm
rs600 or contender have got to be my leading choices

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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 07 Mar 16 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by chris_wht

rs600 or contender have got to be my leading choices


IMO it is very unwise to part with anything less than about two grand if you want a Contender (unless you like boats that break all the time and then break you when hauling them up any slipway steeper than the slightest or slight slopes).  A grand will buy a lot of grin with RS600 or Lasers, I have also had a huge amount of fun and great racing in two sub £1k National 12s in past years, where the class have racing for older numbers along side the newer stuff and there is decent take up (or was anyhow, haven't been paying so much attention recently)



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