Anyone Actually Go Sailing Today?
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Topic: Anyone Actually Go Sailing Today?
Posted By: Jeepers
Subject: Anyone Actually Go Sailing Today?
Date Posted: 07 Feb 16 at 10:30pm
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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 07 Feb 16 at 10:33pm
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Certainly not this evening 91knots recorded at Prawle Point! ------------- Happily living in the past |
Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 07 Feb 16 at 10:36pm
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Think you could be excused for that then1
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Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 07 Feb 16 at 10:46pm
| Nope... but I spent much of the day indoors building boat I could have sailed today.... |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 7:20am
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Yep, sailing at Hunts SC in Cambs yesterday it was seriously windy though. Our resident Phantom hotshot was bemoaning his lack of pies (he only weights 77kg). The D-Zero went really well and I was with him for most of both races but he just got away in the first race after I have a moment on a gybe. Also don't forget the hardy 70 odd that were at Rutland for the Tiger.
------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 8:30am
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We did the morning race at Whitefriars, and I tested out the storm sail I shortened a mast for, but really only because I wanted to see if it worked. A few big gusts, but I think we were between storms. By the afternoon, it was pretty nasty. I had to go home anyway, but I don't think a race happened. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 9:48am
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Nope we called it off, but then the girls in the Feva just went out to play, I sulked off home feeling disgusted with myself for not going out to join them. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 10:25am
And? Does it work? I assume this is on the Minisail? How much did you take off the mast? |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 10:53am
Funny I was running exactly that thought through my head, thinking about putting up a windsurfer rig, I must get some varnish and finish these bloody foils... ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 12:02pm
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Some awesome sailing was had at Bough Beech.
Lots of boats, lots of swimming and sadly one mast busted. Very sailable most of the time however. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 12:07pm
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It was on the Lightning, not the Minisail.
Minisail storm sail- Topper sail, perhaps?! Or, with battens, an old style Byte sail? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 12:22pm
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Saturday, rain all day, and strong winds. I stayed home and watched Rugby.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 12:41pm
I tell you what, I had a look at a full featured racing topper rig sported by a keen young chap at our lake the other day and it was a lot more professional than the rig currently set up on my 'sprint. https://youtu.be/SI_dH3HEWnM" rel="nofollow - Then again there are exceptions.. 
------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 5:11pm
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http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/aquabatdinghy/media/Minisprint%20rebuild/DSC_0058.jpg.html?sort=4&o=37" rel="nofollow - Rigging Finished Photo by aquabatdinghy - Photobucket
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Posted By: Jeremyc
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 6:51pm
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Was race officer at Burghfield, lots of wind at times, very gusty, but great fun watching and snapping the pics: follow the gallery link below for a peek. thankfully no bust bits except pride! https://flic.kr/s/aHskqF1dCC" rel="nofollow - Flickr images  ------------- N12- pure joy D-Zero more pure joy |
Posted By: Gfinch
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 8:32pm
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Strong winds at Alton Water for their Frostbite but most made it out for the 1st race and many retired during the 2nd. ------------- 3513, 3551 - National 12 136069 - Laser 32541 - Mirror 4501 - Laser 4000 |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 8:45pm
Impressive images 
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Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 8:58pm
| It was a bit windy at Leigh & |
Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 9:05pm
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Yeah-nice pics Jeremyc We got two races in at West Oxfordshire SC; can't have been too bad as I got round OK. Crewed an Ent
in the breezier 2nd race-blimey, they're twitchy on a run!
------------- Stewart |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 08 Feb 16 at 10:15pm
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AlexM, you have a m. in front of youtube.
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Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 12:33am
at least i wasn't the only one to break a mast this weekend 
http://youtu.be/m-HkiJNMhs4" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/m-HkiJNMhs4
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Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 7:51am
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I'll try again :)
https://youtu.be/YhdMMs-xokI |
Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 21 Feb 16 at 10:54pm
| So..2 weeks later, who dipped a toe. A fair few takers at my club today and good spectator stuff. |
Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 12:12am
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Nope... was out on a motorcycle run though, and the wind was entertaining in places... My heavy weather boat wont be ready for this years blow, unless it continues into May or June... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 7:56am
| A small group of us went out at blithfield. It was big breeze in the morning but by the time racing started it actually died right down. Everyone that was put off by the weather forecast missed some really good sailing. I'm starting to the think all internet weather sites should be banned from all sailors. |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 8:48am
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Was out a Datchet; they put on two races. I have to admit i didn't even finish one - but i had a laugh (and a lot of capsizes hooning about) - getting the kite up made the lake feel very small. ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 9:51am
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Nope 27 kts with 40 gusts tends to break stuff I've noticed, better off on something without wires and ropes, not that I bothered. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 12:57pm
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"I'm starting to the think all internet weather sites should be banned from all sailors"
Yes Doug.H....there was some conversation at our club last night about that. We've removed the webcam and it's been suggested that all weather info and links be removed from the club website. But I guess most of us know how to quickly access Windguru and other such sites. |
Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 1:28pm
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I have to say, Windguru was rubbish this weekend. Some say that it is normally like this. Met Office was almost exactly spot on down our way. ------------- Steve B RS300 411 https://www.facebook.com/groups/55859303803" rel="nofollow - RS300 page |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 1:41pm
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XC weather works best for us in this area, regrettably it rarely ever gets it wrong.
Doesn't stop me turning up though for a chat and a cuppa, although this week I didn't bother getting straight out of bed into the dry suit as I might normally on a winter sunday morn. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 1:47pm
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Can just see it now on the beeb, all weather websites suffer DDoS attacks traced back to a hobbits house in Kent ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 1:50pm
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Do you even sail these days maxi?
I heard they'd started building by passes round you.. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 1:57pm
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We had team racing practice in reefed fireflies. Started with no jibs, but it moderated about before really blowing up, we then went in.
Apparently the gusts were as windguru at around 40. Certainly the windiest I can remember being out in. Surprisingly the racing was very close and the gybing duels were manic. The waves on Rutland were more reminiscent of Hayling as well. Great afternoon sailing. Andy ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 2:06pm
| 30 out yesterday morning for the Bough Beech Icicle series and most finished too. |
Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 22 Feb 16 at 4:25pm
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3 mustos and an 800, gusts well in the 30's. ------------- https://skiff-media.teemill.com/" rel="nofollow - T-SHIRTS https://www.photo4me.com/profile/23908/" rel="nofollow - PRINTS |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 6:35pm
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Another nightmare gusty cold sunday I should have stayed in bed. Had an attempt at playing in it, just a nightmare that was only going to bust something, make me cold and peeved off, so broke the fundamental rule, if it isn't fun, don't do it. Had one gust I was already planing on the edge of extinction on a screaming reach when it blew even harder and the nose went deeper into the water and the bloody thing all but broached like a lead mine, this isn't fun, bigger gusts are supposed to make you go faster, not slower...
Someone told me afterwards what I should do (dump the kicker) but when you're already half up on your ear, leaningnback in to unleash controls isn't exactly on the menu, interesting problem though. As it was I ended up screwing up wind with a dumped main, but not what I'd have liked to do, so that and getting stuck in irons with my new keep outy thing, I thought f**k it this isn't even going to be fun, and came in. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 7:11pm
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http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=daily;type=maxw;sess=
Just down the road from you Graeme. Should make you feel better. |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 7:27pm
| The main issue I have with strong wind racing is, if on safety having to rescue large sailors, a couple of weeks ago a elderly member got into difficulties and needed lifting into safety boat, he was probably double my weight. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 7:50pm
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There are various ways of doing this discussed on the RYA safety boat course, but in the end, physics will win unless the safety boat is prepared. We carry solid ladders to clip on the edge of the dory so people can climb up if able. They don't go under the boat like rope ones. On a small lake, you could even resort to bringing them near the edge where they can stand up. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Wiclif
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 8:14pm
| A friend at a commercial centre had the problem of getting a large person back into the rescue boat. His solution was to get the guy to stand on the engine horizontal plate above the prop, and the used the electrics to tilt the engine. I thought that was quite clever. |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 8:27pm
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That's an approved method for getting people in. Best to turn the engine off while you do it. ------------- OK 2129 RS200 411 |
Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 9:05pm
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Inappropriate boats! A good dinghy should be usable in anything short of a hurricane.... Either through reefing, or having a smaller sail to start with!! |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 9:42pm
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The whole point of having a safety boat is so we can sail boats which wouldn't be suitable for crossing the channel at night singlehanded, with the knowledge that we each take it in turns to mind the others. The problem of getting heavy people aboard is a serious one. I've never tried the engine as step method, but have heard it works. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 9:47pm
| I can see a small hoist working. |
Posted By: GML
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 10:35pm
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Over 180 junior Topper sailors sailed 3 races yesterday and another 3 races today at Weymouth - 18 gusting 25 knots and very cold both days. Photos at https://www.facebook.com/GBRTopper/
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Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 28 Feb 16 at 11:28pm
| Very cold and windy where I am (30 miles from the South Coast). So we stayed at home, watched the England/Ireland highlights, had a nice Sunday lunch, and went and bought a new car. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 7:33am
See what happens when you don't go sailing? Salutary lesson to us all! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 10:26am
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When i did my dinghy instructor course, many many moons ago the approach for getting someone bigger than yourself out the water was to push them down as hard as you could and then use the buoyancy momentum when they popped back up to help you. Its not 'recommended' anymore though ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 10:33am
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It still crops up as a way to do it. Just warn them first! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 12:41pm
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We just use rope ladders tied to the grabrail of the safety boat that can be rolled over the side ------------- RS600 1001 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 5:50pm
| very difficult to bob someone below surface when their shoulders are also below surface, 50 newton buoyancy aid suits all ? |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 5:54pm
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50 Newton doesn't mean they all have 50 Newtons, oddly. XL BAs do have more buoyancy than small ones. Whether it is enough is down to individual body size, I guess. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 7:27pm
Does not matter, you push down, they bob back up with a bit of momentum. Also if the RIB is not too large, you can rock it a bit, so that when Mr Whale is at his highest, the tube is at its lowest. Don't practise with small people, you'll chuck them into the console. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 7:30pm
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If a rib, let the air out of the tube. Carry a pump, though! ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 9:17pm
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Jaffa. |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 9:25pm
| another option, some sort of air bed, let them float onto it and tow in, similar to spinal board paramedics use. |
Posted By: zippyRN
Date Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 10:21pm
i know the Beach lifeguards have some sort of 'trailer' for the jet skis or of course there is the pioner Multi with it's landing craft style bow door ... http://www.pionerboats.co.uk/pioner-multi.asp
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 01 Mar 16 at 7:35am
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I have used the Multi in anger, picking up a dozen people from the water. Worked surprisingly well. Not great to drive, though, and needs a big engine for it to move at more than a snail's pace.
With the Jaffa, I'd go with some sort of step, I think. The engine may well be too small to climb. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 13 Mar 16 at 7:10pm
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What a lovely days racing...club sailors out in force...just superb!
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Posted By: iiiiticki
Date Posted: 13 Mar 16 at 7:34pm
| Yes! lovely day. About 12 boats including a new Zero and me chugging round at the back. |
Posted By: realnutter
Date Posted: 13 Mar 16 at 7:43pm
| You had wind? None to speak of here... I stayed at home boat building instead... |
Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 13 Mar 16 at 10:13pm
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40-50 odd boats out today I reckon. It felt like a good place to be.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 14 Mar 16 at 9:57am
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Sun was out, still breezy and baltic, but we must have had 15 boats out and some kids in Fevas practising getting their booms tangled in old boys shrouds at the pin end of the start line. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 14 Mar 16 at 10:43am
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Bah humbug, still laying a patio. next week I should be free unless she who shall be obeyed can think of something! ------------- Gordon Lossc |
Posted By: AlanH
Date Posted: 14 Mar 16 at 11:43am
| Lovely and warm up here at Largs for the Barton Warm Up open series yesterday. 18 boats, all types from Osprey to Topper. |
Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 15 May 16 at 9:03pm
| Anyone? Sadly, sat at home working today. Any good tales today? Any new developments spotted or brewing? Anything worth starting a new thread about? |
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 15 May 16 at 9:53pm
| I rarely sail in hot weather, the wind needs to be exceptional to tempt me out, so I spent day working on boat and OOD for first 2 races (purely to allow person who was on duty to have a couple of races). |
Posted By: iiiiticki
Date Posted: 15 May 16 at 11:40pm
| I did, wind nice but shifty, sunshine, hills and friends. Crap in one race, not bad in another. Sat outside pub, went for walk on lovely evening. Not a bad old life! |