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Please help save Dun Laoghaire harbour

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Topic: Please help save Dun Laoghaire harbour
Posted By: dohertpk
Subject: Please help save Dun Laoghaire harbour
Date Posted: 01 Apr 15 at 9:21pm
Hi all,
I'm making a desperate plea for your help. I sail in Dun Laoghaire harbour, just south of Dublin city centre. The semi-state that manages the harbour is planning to build a 400m quay in the harbour, essentially bisecting it, in an effort to attract cruise ships. The result would be a complete decimation of dinghy sailing in the harbour, a fact which the company is choosing to ignore or spin. Generations have learned to sail dinghies in Dun Laoghaire harbour. It's where we hold our Frostbites, it's where our kids learn to sail, and it's the heart of dinghy sailing in Ireland. Please please help me voice opposition to the destruction of our harbour. The company which is proposing to construct this berth is holding a 'public consultation'. All you have to do is email one or two lines saying why you think the proposal would be bad for dinghy sailing in the harbour. I know this forum is mainly populated by people from the UK, but if you've ever sailed in Dun Laoghaire, if you ever plan to sail there, or if you know anyone that has, please take the 2 minutes to email this address with your objections:

info@dlharbour.ie

Please help - we have nowhere else to sail!

Peter



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Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 9:42am
Sadly money may win over dinghy sailing however hard one may try. Personally I would burn all cruise liners or moor them at Chealsea Reach for homeless Londoners to live in.

I will email.


Posted By: Woodburner
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 11:08am
Have you considered one of those online petitions? https://www.change.org/en-GB" rel="nofollow - Like these they seem to be effective, I'll email but generally ticking one of these boxes is easier..



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Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 11:21am
the other side of the argument is the jobs and investment it would bring to the area.... it's a big ol' bay, I'm sure you'll find somewhere to sail.


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Woodburner

they seem to be effective,.


Citation? I've still not seen evidence that a change.org or 38degrees petition has ever had any real influence.

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Posted By: boatshed
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

the other side of the argument is the jobs and investment it would bring to the area.... it's a big ol' bay, I'm sure you'll find somewhere to sail.


Yep and Ireland seems to be on a roll again.  I'm doing  business in Ireland as their engineering/manufacturing prices are now excellent.  The Greeks are doing the whole of the Eurozone a favour in keeping the Euro low.   They also have a low corporation tax rate.   So, I'm not surprised to see this type of development starting to emerge again.






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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

the other side of the argument is the jobs and investment it would bring to the area.

I've never been very sure or convinced about that. Yes lots of jobs building the infrastructure, but how much cash do cruise ships actually put into local economies? They don't use local accommodation, most shore visitors will buy a few snacks and maybe a knick-knack or two.

I was in Cadiz last year every day 1 or 2 cruise ships visited, never stayed as long as 24 hours. You'd see the groups from the ships being shown the sights at that end of town, and then they were off again. Unless they charge gigantic rates for docking I'd think they may well put more of a strain on the local environment and economy than be a benefit.


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Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 12:37pm
Obviously we're not privy to the planing application and assumed long term income projection, but Dublin's a fantastic city which thrives with short-stay tourism.  Any project that keeps footfall high is going to be welcomed I'd have thought.    


Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 12:53pm
Thanks to all who have sent emails. Woodburner, thanks so much for that suggestion! I've created an online petition here:

https://www.change.org/p/dun-laoghaire-harbour-company-save-dun-laoghaire-dinghy-sailing


Posted By: Woodburner
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 1:48pm
https://www.change.org/p/dun-laoghaire-harbour-company-save-dun-laoghaire-dinghy-sailing" rel="nofollow - https://www.change.org/p/dun-laoghaire-harbour-company-save-dun-laoghaire-dinghy-sailing

That makes it more click for lazy uncut and paste ers..

I've bunged it on the Sailing Jihad group, not mush else we can do now.


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Posted By: Woodburner
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by Woodburner

they seem to be effective,.


Citation? I've still not seen evidence that a change.org or 38degrees petition has ever had any real influence.

I have but for the sake of me I can't remember, I think it was one of those housing estate problems that got some attention, it certainly raised attention to Clarkson, and Greenpeace seem to think they do help, it can't do any harm, unless of course nobody signs, then it can have the opposite effect.

Who cares what dinghy sailors think anyway?Wink


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Posted By: James Bell
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 9:36pm
Have signed - good luck with your campaign.

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Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 02 Apr 15 at 11:40pm
Thanks so much! It's a total cliche but it really is the case that every single signature counts.


Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 03 Apr 15 at 9:42pm
Especially when there s less than a fag packets worth of signatories



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