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Topic: Volvo Ocean Race
Posted By: Paddy
Subject: Volvo Ocean Race
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 1:31pm

What are the  the chances of 3 or more boats making the finish of the first leg??......first night over and 3 boats heading for shore......

....bet this isn't the sort of reliability publicity that Volvo want to be associated with........and some of the guys still out there must be bricking it!........

......roll on the Southern Ocean 




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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 1:54pm

Not good - 2 boats in port(1 leaky keel, 1 structural damage), 1 boat lost a steering pedastle plus a fire on board.

Who knows what other unreported problems they have.

Do they really want to take these boats down in the Southern Ocean.

I suspect there will be some serious soul searching (and maitenance work) going on in Capetown.

Great stuff - this is yacht racing worth following / watching.

p.s Should there be a sweepstake on when the next ORMA tri will capsize in the Transat???

 



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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 4:26pm

Ragging across the southern ocean in something with the power to weight ratio of an 18ft skiff was always going to be nothing short of suicidal but its worrying the kind of damage being picked up already...

It will certainly make for interesting veiwing (or at least reading) and im sure it will confirm the volvos status as 'the' toughest yacht race in the world but Im undecided on how it will affect the sponsors reputations.. at the moment it doesnt look good for them IMHO



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Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 15 Nov 05 at 7:41am

This kind of things been going on since the race started. Thats why we don't all do it. The fact is, the boat that beats the 3 finishers will be quick, quicker than if they cruised it in a Swan and quicker than if they had relaxed off early in the race.

You can't ask them to not try and win so much and they are not asking anyone else to race the race for them. Give me a while to dig out some archives...... Im sure I can find all the above comments from more than 20 years ago.



Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 4:19pm

Has anyone checked out the websites of the teams in this race.

My 2 favourites are

1. First and by a long way (don't forget to put the sound on) Pirates of the Caribean http://www.blackpearlracing.com/ - http://www.blackpearlracing.com/

2. Ericsson - well I do work for them in a round about way. http://www.ericssonracingteam.com/ - http://www.ericssonracingteam.com/



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 6:45pm

Originally posted by Bumble

This kind of things been going on since the race started

True: Lawrie Smith's hideous maxi ketch only made it a couple of hundred miles before the mast fell down.

I can't say I remember so many of the fleet succumbing so quickly before though.  



Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Bumble

This kind of things been going on since the race started

True: Lawrie Smith's hideous maxi ketch only made it a couple of hundred miles before the mast fell down.

I can't say I remember so many of the fleet succumbing so quickly before though.  

And they are quality highly funded entries as well. You would not expect entries such as Moviestar and Pirates to fail in such spectacular fasion.



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 20 Nov 05 at 6:59pm
http://www.yachtingworld.com/auto/newsdesk/20051021140348ywvolvo06.html - http://www.yachtingworld.com/auto/newsdesk/20051021140348ywv olvo06.html  is a very revealing interview with the designer of ABN AMRO 1.


Posted By: damp_freddie
Date Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 2:05pm
i'm not up for mechanical movement in a critical component.

I thought the previous boats could have done a couple more runs, but then agian it is about innovation and the Open 60s have been showing some level of reliability in these systems

BTW the new 79er from Bethwaite and Bulloch is a kanter so far. 8knts up wind.....OK for an inshore boat. Give me solid metal nicely bolted on or several hulls for oceans!


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 27 Nov 05 at 11:56pm
Stefan, what was the gist of the interview, the link has gone cold?


Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 12:18pm

Less than 48 hours into leg 2, 2 boats down already.  It's not good for sailing really is it?

Mike



Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 1:47pm
Well it is meant to be the toughest yacht race in the world. Do people think any of the boats are going to manage to sail every leg without returning to shore with a breakage at some point?

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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 5:52pm

Originally posted by MikeBz

It's not good for sailing really is it?

There have always been boats that get damaged but I don't remember anything on this scale before. The scary thing is that they haven't encountered any really tough conditions yet - but they will, and soon.

 

 



Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 6:27pm
Just take a look at the videos of the inshore race on the the VOR website.  There's a bit of breeze blowing and  the speeds they get are unbelievable.  The scary thing is that the ultra-professional crews on the boats can hardly cope and the boats are frquently out of control with broaches and twisted spinnakers.  An article also described the alarming problem of psychological stress on the sailors.  This is something pretty new in the world of sailing and the safety of it has to be questioned.

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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 6:48pm

What a race/class ... I hope they all make it through the SO ...

Rick

PS. I guess Volvo are looking to sex up the brand a bit ... reliability and safe it isn't ...



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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 7:20pm
oh well look the lead boat just broke!! 

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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 7:32pm

Originally posted by Calum_Reid

Well it is meant to be the toughest yacht race in the world. Do people think any of the boats are going to manage to sail every leg without returning to shore with a breakage at some point?

 

I think the sailors on the Vendée might have something to say about that !



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 8:23pm

Originally posted by Prince Buster

The scary thing is that the ultra-professional crews on the boats can hardly cope and the boats are frquently out of control with broaches and twisted spinnakers. (snip)  This is something pretty new in the world of sailing and the safety of it has to be questioned.

You think broaches, twisted spinnakers and white knuckles on the wheel are a new thing? I assume you don't remember IOR designs. 



Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Prince Buster

The scary thing is that the ultra-professional crews on the boats can hardly cope and the boats are frquently out of control with broaches and twisted spinnakers. (snip)  This is something pretty new in the world of sailing and the safety of it has to be questioned.

You think broaches, twisted spinnakers and white knuckles on the wheel are a new thing? I assume you don't remember IOR designs. 

 

And form the last time around; the footage showed a few broaches too....Rick Tomlinson had one in one of his Calendars (Tyco I think)



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Posted By: whynot
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 8:28pm

3 words: Bigger, Harder, Faster.

Go the Pirates!



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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 8:32pm

Anyone following it on Virtual Spectator / Google earth ?

Very good



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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 10:18pm
Following it on Virtual Spectator but can't work out how to do it on Google Earth.  Does anyone know how?

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Posted By: whynot
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 11:06pm

Not 100% sure, but vis spec rocks.

Shame they don't update it more often tho, I like to know the latest!



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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 10 Jan 06 at 11:13pm
http://content.volvooceanrace.org/VS/ViewerDownload/Volvo2005Setup1_0_5_0.exe - VOR Linky

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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 16 Feb 06 at 5:09am
http://www.piratesracing.org/Chopper_Pirates.mov - http://www.piratesracing.org/Chopper_Pirates.mov  is a very impressive movie clip (4.4Mb)


Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 5:45pm

Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

http://www.piratesracing.org/Chopper_Pirates.mov - http://www.piratesracing.org/Chopper_Pirates.mov  is a very impressive movie clip (4.4Mb)

linky no worky



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 01 Apr 06 at 8:27am
You are six weeks too late.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Apr 06 at 2:30pm
Is it just me, or is the Volvo race generating a lot less interest on the Y&Y forum this time round? I know I started watching the race with great interest, but as time has gone on and the fleet fallen apart and become a procession, I given up even reading the reports most of the time. Am I alone in this?

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Posted By: Chew my RS
Date Posted: 18 Apr 06 at 2:17pm

Originally posted by Rupert

Is it just me, or is the Volvo race generating a lot less interest on the Y&Y forum this time round? I know I started watching the race with great interest, but as time has gone on and the fleet fallen apart and become a procession, I given up even reading the reports most of the time. Am I alone in this?

I think the lack of response speaks volumes...



Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 18 Apr 06 at 5:39pm
Plenty of discussion on Sailing Anarchy if you want it. There was a blow-by-blow account by the Baltimore locals going on yesterday.


Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 19 Apr 06 at 6:03pm
I watched the TV coverage of the VO70s a month ago or so. The coverage was on ITV4 and was really good, gave technical information and a good insight into the racing. Another interesting point was it gave a very personal insight into the rigours of the race. It's a real shame it was on at "stupid o'clock" in the morning. 

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