Laser daggerboard grip
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Topic: Laser daggerboard grip
Posted By: radial179102
Subject: Laser daggerboard grip
Date Posted: 13 Nov 05 at 10:58am
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I have just finished sanding and re-painting my daggerboard for my laser because it had a lot of scratches in it from being pulled up and down out of the case. I know in toppers it is legal to put like a stickyback foam (poligrip??) on the inside of the case to stop this from happening, it also limits the wobbly movement inside the case. Is this legal in lasers? and where do I get hold of some? thanks ------------- 
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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 13 Nov 05 at 9:24pm
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Not sure about the legalness of it but sailing solutions sell it. And if its not legal, take out the bladders which hold the d.b. down and fill them with boiling water, they will restore shape and work lovely again! ------------- -[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933 |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 13 Nov 05 at 9:29pm
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It is against class rules to pack your centreboard case, you may have noticed no one has done it! If you were allowed to do it everyone would... The joys of Laser sailing, no boat work ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
(I recently packed my rudder and centreboard on the 49er and it is not a lot of fun
)Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 9:45am
surly it might be something laser as a company might want to think about it is only a small change and as laser has proved that small changes can be made to make the boat more erganomic to the user ( see new kicker ) which brings me to the point of if the boat is now easier to use and you can put more kicker on with greater ease or just make finer adjustments that would make laser as a class go faster why havnt they changed the handicap??? i know that since some of the lasers at our club have done so they have gone faster than the ones that havent! ------------- maybe theres more to life than being really really really really..........really good looking |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 10:29am
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Putting in packing is not a small change! Good packing takes hours of work and would add a hell of a lot to the price of the boat. Most companies put in reasonable packing (works but is not great) and then the top sailors rip it out and put in their on. Once again in example you can spend a week in the boat shed sorting out a brand new 49er to get it race ready.
The new control lines make the Laser easier (and more fun) to sail but do not increase the speed. The top guys do not go any faster but those towards the back of the fleet will probably be able to get around the course quicker! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 3:03pm
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surly the guys at the back will be making a diffrence to the handicap as it is taken from sailors of all abilitys as an average ------------- maybe theres more to life than being really really really really..........really good looking |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 4:08pm
How do you pack the case in the 49er?
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Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 5:12pm
Its a while since I owned a laser but I'm fairly certain they don't have bladders! But there is a friction plate on the back of the centreboard slot. ------------- Garry Lark 2252, Contender 298 www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 6:36pm
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The Topper dinghy has bladders. Packing does come down to personnal choice but options include evostick and progrip, sikalfex, webbing and expoxy. It really pays to have the foils tightly packed (an effort to get in and out) and perfectly aligned.
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 6:51pm
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Yep heard of all of those so which do the 49er choose? Rick ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 7:08pm
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With the sikaflex option is it simply a matter of stripping out the
existing packing, waxing the hell out of the board, putting it in the
case, squirt as much goo as you can around the edge and prey it
doesnt stick and is aligned properly? I will be building a new rudder box fairly soon and it was something I was thinking about today... progrip seems to be the most common solution that ive come across but it must be a b*****d to fit? ------------- |
Posted By: Quagers
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 12:02pm
| Might be a bit late, you cant back the case but you are allowed to move the grip plate forwards to hold the daggerboard in place. |
Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 12:59pm
I'm fairly sure it's illegal to re-finish a Laser foil. I know it's unlikely to be an issue for most sailors but in theory your boat will be out of class. ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 1:32pm
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It is legal to repair your foils! You may put tape at the front of the case to prevent damae. If you are a member of the UKLA (which you should be!) you will have a copy of the rues!!!
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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 1:58pm
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I didn't say repair I said re-finish (ie to re-paint) which is what Radial179102 said he has done. ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 2:34pm
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If the surface is scratched and you re-paint it that is repairing it!!! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 4:43pm
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Hey, I didn't write them and I don't even think they're sensible, I'm just reporting what I was told when I repaired a friends dagger board. I would say that painting cannot be considered repairing. After all you could fill scratches with filler and not repaint but I think that fairing is also banned so you couldn't even sand the filler. It's all semantics and nobody really gives a rats but that doesn't make it less interesting or worth debate. ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 4:50pm
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Unfortunately you were incorrectly informed. You can paint/fill and sand the foils to correct any damage. ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Granite
Date Posted: 25 Oct 06 at 6:49pm
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If you are building the rudder box, just protect the rudder, wrap the progrip around the rudder and layup the glass/carbon on the outside. The Progrip is then solidly attached to the rudder box. the only problem is that it can be a bit to high friction moving the rudder. I quite fancy trying the same thing but using Jap tape as the liner.
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