Remarkable Design from France
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Topic: Remarkable Design from France
Posted By: JimC
Subject: Remarkable Design from France
Date Posted: 18 Jan 15 at 7:24pm
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At first sight I thought it was going to be tortured ply without all the hassle of cutting darts in the ply and making joins, but looking more closely (go to the site for more photos) I think its actually moulded glass! 
I suppose with the radically low rocker the extra freeboard at the bow helps... A bit of googling seems to indicate there's an alternate rig option with an unstayed mast just inside the stem, so maybe all the freeboard helps support the mast and the reverse rake stem gives the required extreme rake for the mast. |
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 18 Jan 15 at 10:07pm
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Pretty remarkable - looks like it was designed by cutting a loo roll down and squishing the end.
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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 9:37am
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Is there logic in doing this - or is it someone trying to see just how extreme they can go? Aesthetically the mast needs a lot of rake - though I've no idea if it would make it sail better! ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 10:14am
Here we go: this is an alternative rig which in some ways makes more sense.
I'm sure the designer put appreciable logic and judgement behind the design. Whether his logic and judgement was well founded... Well, I suppose I ought to postpone judgement until I had sailed one, seeing as I have no idea quite how something that left field would behave, but I must confess I wouldn't go more than a couple of miles out of my way to do so! 
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Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 10:16am
You're being very generous there, Jim.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 11:16am
Well, you know, when looking at things that are way outside what I am familiar with I am reminded of Clarke's First Law:
Like Grfs peculiar thing, its so far outside the boundaries of what I like to think I understand that I think its unwise for me to make dogmatic predictions. I don't know everything. I don't know if you've come across "The Athenian Trireme" by Morrison, Coates and Rankov, which is the story of the design of what they hope is a reconstruction of an Athenian warship. One of the things that struck me reading the book was that several times they ran into the problem that key aspects of the design, notably length to beam, length to depth and any feasible prismatic coefficient were simply way outside of the parameters used in any naval architecture of the last 500 years, so there was really very little to go on in designing the craft. Yet just because the design is completely outside any modern experience didn't mean that they weren't built or that they didn't work. |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 10:11pm
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I will now offer a considered, balanced and concise, three word critique of this craft, IMO as a proud Englishman; Ugly Odd French Oh, and on a more practical level..... Why? |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 19 Jan 15 at 10:48pm
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It is widely reported that the ever-so classy champagne coupe was formed upon the breast of Marie Antoinette ...
This appears to crafted around the nose of Gerard Depardieu. |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 20 Jan 15 at 12:08am
| I have actually seen one of these (with the Stemhead rig) in Brittany. Now I know what it was. It looks better moving than sitting still. |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 20 Jan 15 at 7:11am
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It looks better on the water than off it.
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