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Topic: Splicing excel control

Posted By: dohertpk
Subject: Splicing excel control
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 7:18pm

Hi all,

Having a bit of trouble splicing Excel Control 4mm for the continuous kicker on my 600. I've watched the video from Marlow/Rooster a few times, but the weave is so tight there's no way I can make a hole big enough in the cover to push the fid through. Has anyone experience splicing this line for continuous control lines. How did you work a hole big enough in the cover? Thanks in advance.

Peter

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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 8:09pm

Its a total pain. I gave up rather quickly.

The english braids equivalent is much easier.

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Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 8:36pm

Patience, honestly, you have to work it and it takes time. I found a needle much easier than a fid too.

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Musto Skiff and Solo sailor

Posted By: Little Monster
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 8:49pm

You need one of these

http://www.jimmygreen.co.uk/item/12044/marlow-excel-splicing-needle

A pair of electrical scissors is also recommended so that you can split the last 3cm of the line then cut away the coloured ends so that you are pulling less through.

Hope it helps

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Phantom "Little Monster"
1404

Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 8:53pm

Thanks for that - I actually have the splicing needle. The issue isn't pulling one core through another. I'm having problems creating a large enough hole in the cover for the splicing needle in the first place. The weave is just so tight, and the individual strands on the 4mm in particular are tiny. What did you use to make a hole in the cover?

Posted By: Little Monster
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 8:59pm

Just work the rounded end between the groups of strands.

I'm surprised that you are having problems but try holding the line about an inch or so either side of where you want to 'go in' and push together so that the cover slightly separates from the core and opens the weave up

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Phantom "Little Monster"
1404

Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 9:16pm

Yeh can't understand why I'm having so much trouble with it. There's absolutely no way those strands are separating. Maybe I got sent/ordered the wrong stuff.

Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 9:44pm

Feel your pain; I had a go and gave up, probably using the wrong stuff. Annoying because I rate myself fairly handy at anything practical.

Would be very interested so hear the make, composition and product name of the control lines that will splice.

Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 9:49pm

Yeh it's hardly cheap stuff either. I went and bought extra too so I could have some to practice on. Might have to be a reef not for the time being. I've tried everything to separate this weave - no budge.

Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 10:09pm

Sorry, but the Englidh Braids stuff is so much better to work with. It can be done with marlow but perseverance is key. That and making sure you've got a 4mm needle because a 5mm one just won't work.

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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.

Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 10:12pm

Cool I'll go for that next time so. Do you happen to know the brand name of the particular English Braids line suitable for control lines? There's a bewildering away of options.

Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 10:38pm

I think it's just called English braids continuous. The hartley boats chandlery website has it. It has fewer braids so you can make bigger holes, it feels nicer in the hand than Marlow too.

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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.

Posted By: dohertpk
Date Posted: 11 Oct 14 at 10:47pm

found it! Thanks!

Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:50am

I'm told 5mm is much easier to splice than the 4mm stuff.

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Steve B
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