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Category: Dinghy classes
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Printed Date: 10 Jul 25 at 11:20am
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Topic: Boat Swap?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Boat Swap?
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 10:22am
Probably not one for an unblemished pride and joy, but if like me you have a well used something or other you'd like to swap and try something else. Hook em up trail them to a suitable m/way service station, swap, promise not to batter them any further or agree to financially compensate/keep insured etc, then if we like it we stick, if not we swap back?

Anyone fancy the idea?

In this instance I'm thinking lake use rather than trying to launch into this which we probably won't be doing now for another 6 months or more.


High tide yesterday winter storms come early.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 10:46am
Trouble is my well used something or others ARE my pride and joys...

But I'm sure there are people out there who might be interested.


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Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 1:03pm
I am doing exactly that next week - amazingly we both wanted each others boats !

PS Don't google 'good places for swapping by the M25'


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 1:12pm
Graeme why don't you try selling the EPS for what you paid for it?  

... Oh, and what happened to the free RS Aero in return for 'forum love'?  Did you get cold feet?


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 1:21pm
I haven't followed it up tbh, just didn't get round to it. We're on the downturn now, and getting it delivered to that bloody lake is a nightmare, and I've got all this moving house crap going on, and we've got kite armada things going on this weekend.

South Mimms on the North, or that new Service near Cobham would be two swap spots on the M25 I'd target, without alerting doggers.

I am selling the EPS for what i paid for it (and the subsequent extras in spares and soft sails)

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Posted By: KeithF
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 1:54pm
I did it - swapped my D-1 for a Phantom whilst waiting for the D-Zero to arrive.

Since then two more club members have bought Phantoms as wellConfused So I'm now keeping that and the Zero will probably only get used at open events.



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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 3:55pm
But there was a cash adjustment surely there Keith?

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:05pm
Do gentlemen talk about such things as cash adjustments in public? 

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by iGRF

I've got all this moving house crap going on

just signed a mortgage deed myself this afternoon- the reality of quite the gap between boats is beginning to take a good hold of my consciousness, and its ugly, brutally ugly.... not aided by Windguru changing my plans for Sunday with LostBoy and our Konas/Chakras- looks like I'm clearing out the garage rather than sailing... grrh LOL


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:23pm
Just got my completion date, completion date, just told me now, and only because i rang up by chance, bored in a traffic hold up.. 24th of this month! That's me moving in 15 days 3 birthdays and one major kite events time.... here's a tip. never use a Contender sailor as a lawyer...

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:24pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Do gentlemen talk about such things as cash adjustments in public? 


No, that would be like asking for a happy ending after a chinese massage and acupuncture.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Just got my completion date, completion date, just told me now, and only because i rang up by chance, bored in a traffic hold up.. 24th of this month! That's me moving in 15 days 3 birthdays and one major kite events time.... here's a tip. never use a Contender sailor as a lawyer...

you're a week ahead of me.... 30th.  I now need to shift some of my crap- 2 snowboard decks that I was waiting for Dec to ebay, a drysuit, two wetsuits that are barely used, a 4.4m Goya wave sail, a couple of old quiver bags and christ knows what 'fixtures and fittings' I've got between two, or is it three old tool boxes.  Might as well get shot of the trailer board and my pintle mast support too.....  

I might have to re-join that Facebook Group Russ and I started.  Ebay fees are almost as usury as stamp duty...


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by iGRF

here's a tip. never use a Contender sailor as a lawyer...


I didn't know that it was possible for Contender sailors to be lawyers?

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Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Originally posted by iGRF

Just got my completion date, completion date, just told me now, and only because i rang up by chance, bored in a traffic hold up.. 24th of this month! That's me moving in 15 days 3 birthdays and one major kite events time.... here's a tip. never use a Contender sailor as a lawyer...

you're a week ahead of me.... 30th.  I now need to shift some of my crap- 2 snowboard decks that I was waiting for Dec to ebay, a drysuit, two wetsuits that are barely used, a 4.4m Goya wave sail, a couple of old quiver bags and christ knows what 'fixtures and fittings' I've got between two, or is it three old tool boxes.  Might as well get shot of the trailer board and my pintle mast support too.....  

I might have to re-join that Facebook Group Russ and I started.  Ebay fees are almost as usury as stamp duty...

without going too far off topic, which boards have you got?


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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 09 Oct 14 at 5:17pm
Hi Steve,

It's a Burton Hate 157 (2013/14 limited release edition) and a Burton Superhero 156 (NUG reduced, 2013/14)

The Superhero is a lovely all-mountain freestyle board- highly recommended; the Hate is too soft and for park rats... avoid, unless of course you want something super pressy / buttery for a dome/jib park.

Both are Channel Set EST binding systems, so unless you've got, or want to get, Burton ESTs, they're not massively compatible with other standard 4 hole bindings out there, and conversion plates suck imho.  

Let me know if you want piccies....

Jimbo


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Posted By: KeithF
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 10:42am
Originally posted by maxibuddah

But there was a cash adjustment surely there Keith?

Yes there was. Rich wanted a D-1 and I needed something to sail short term.

It hasn't quite worked out that way for me, however, as the depressed nature of the Phantom market has encouraged a couple of larger Laser sailors at the club to defect.



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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 10:51am
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Hi Steve,

It's a Burton Hate 157 (2013/14 limited release edition) and a Burton Superhero 156 (NUG reduced, 2013/14)

The Superhero is a lovely all-mountain freestyle board- highly recommended; the Hate is too soft and for park rats... avoid, unless of course you want something super pressy / buttery for a dome/jib park.

Both are Channel Set EST binding systems, so unless you've got, or want to get, Burton ESTs, they're not massively compatible with other standard 4 hole bindings out there, and conversion plates suck imho.  

Let me know if you want piccies....

Jimbo


And people think sailing is made less accessible with mumbo jumbo - at least we have the excuse of history!


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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 10:57am
all sports have it- try learning Martial Arts, it has a deeply traditional approach to language and cultural customs.

FWIW - there are two principals technologies for mounting bindings on a snowboard (excluding split boards and alpine boards which are very specialised).  The industry standard is the 4 hole mount- it's been standardised to make things easier for consumers, promotes competition etc.  The there's the new Burton tech (EST) which has been around about 5 years now and is beginning to be licensed to other board manufacturers.

Standardisation is great.... now take a look a the chain plates and clevice pins around your dinghy park... wtf is that all about?


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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 11:02am
I used to learn Judo, so I know what you mean - but super pressy/buttery?

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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 11:10am
Originally posted by KeithF


Originally posted by maxibuddah

But there was a cash adjustment surely there Keith?

Yes there was. Rich wanted a D-1 and I needed something to sail short term.
It hasn't quite worked out that way for me, however, as the depressed nature of the Phantom market has encouraged a couple of larger Laser sailors at the club to defect.



Thank god for that, I thought you were giving d-ones away there. Well if any of the other larger people need another one I have one too that that could purchase (not swap unless there is something good on offer)

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 11:12am
nose and tail presses- pretty basic freestyle trick, made even simpler by a reverse camber (or rockered) board, especially a soft one.

butter - another ground trick, an edge to edge transition from regular to switch riding.  Looks pretty cool when dialled, and fairly functional too if you're running out of piste.  

Boards which are pressy/buttery tend to be either flat rocker or reverse camber, and usually quite soft to make the above- and advanced versions of the above easier. They are typically slow boards which don't make great boards from dropping down pistes- the ride can be a bit 'squirrelly'.  Think Topper- dead downwind in a F6 on the sea... suddenly all that flex they are so famed for stops 'absorbing inaccurate steering' as an amazing beach boat should and becomes a f*cking liability that'll see you in the pss!   


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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Oct 14 at 11:41am
Thank you - I feel educated, and ready to take to the slopes!

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