I'm a sailor and pain is my friend?
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Topic: I'm a sailor and pain is my friend?
Posted By: Do Different
Subject: I'm a sailor and pain is my friend?
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 5:35pm
If I had £25 k to spend on a new boat I'm not so sure it would be this one (at least a Five Oh has a wire).
It is a brand spankers design, got bit of a keel and all up weighs best part of quarter of a ton and yet you still end up doing this.
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/photo/117684
Don't get me wrong, not scared of work or taking some pain. Way back in the 70s I've moved comb sacks of corn and over the passing 40 years tons upon tons of 50kg sacks on my shoulder in my time. Maybe now though thinking that sometimes smarter and not harder could be better.
More about asking the question, this big and powerful and the solution for leverage is more PAIN.
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Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 6:14pm
I see the design spec suggests 2/3 persons, so they could accommodate some additional hired lard....or do class rules get sniffy about such matters?
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 7:53pm
Even if I were a lardy, I wouldn't fancy my chances as a private entry in that collection of ringers!
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=179284" rel="nofollow - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=179284
Or have all the top guys there bought VX Ones? No arguing then, an alluring boat and a great opportunity to watch magic being worked.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 9:33am
Were they hiking like that when there wasn't a camera around?
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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 10:01am
doubt it... but agreed with the OP, it looks ridiculous.
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Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 10:27am
Yesterday two pursuit races in very light wind so 3 hours 'sailing?' for me crunched up in the bottom of my thwartless Lightning. Very creaky this morning. Is there something I can take for greater flexibility in old age?
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 10:58am
Glucosamine? Been thinking of getting myself some, the internet, bread knife and all seem to think I need steroids to sort out one of my issues, but I'm steadfastly refusing and will endure pain rather than take those things.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 11:38am
Originally posted by iGRF
Glucosamine? Been thinking of getting myself some, the internet, bread knife and all seem to think I need steroids to sort out one of my issues, but I'm steadfastly refusing and will endure pain rather than take those things.
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Yes, it would much up your Olympic campaign?
Actually, I agree the idea of filling myself full of steroids is not a nice one.
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by iiitick
Yesterday two pursuit races in very light wind so 3 hours 'sailing?' for me crunched up in the bottom of my thwartless Lightning. Very creaky this morning. Is there something I can take for greater flexibility in old age? |
The surgeon I had after my bike crash last year, unprompted, suggested Glucosamine Sulphate (or rather Sulfate, since UK chemists decided a few years ago that that had been the correct spelling all along - from Latin sulfur) as the only thing he'd recommend for joints after looking at the clinical data. One gram (1000mg) per day.
I'm taking it religiously but can't say I notice any difference, but then apart from the damage which is slowly healing, I never had any problems anyway!
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 2:25pm
Back to the original topic, how much more sense would it make to put a trapeze on the VX-One? Trapezing a stable boat like this would be child's/granny's play, and considerably more comfortable than hiking. OK, it would bring the required crew weight down - great, even we could maybe even sail one!
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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 3:03pm
I think it would make perfect sense if Ovingtons want to send it the same way as the 59er.
But technically speaking- yep, why the hell not?
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Posted By: bustinben
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac
Originally posted by iiitick
Yesterday two pursuit races in very light wind so 3 hours 'sailing?' for me crunched up in the bottom of my thwartless Lightning. Very creaky this morning. Is there something I can take for greater flexibility in old age? |
The surgeon I had after my bike crash last year, unprompted, suggested Glucosamine Sulphate (or rather Sulfate, since UK chemists decided a few years ago that that had been the correct spelling all along - from Latin sulfur) as the only thing he'd recommend for joints after looking at the clinical data. One gram (1000mg) per day.
I'm taking it religiously but can't say I notice any difference, but then apart from the damage which is slowly healing, I never had any problems anyway! |
I thought it had been pretty conclusively proven that Glucosamine does nothing. So I did a search and this is what I found: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/glucosamine-the-unsinkable-rubber-duck/
As I thought. Wish it did though.
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 10:55pm
That citation seems to concern only the application of treating osteoarthritis pain. That's not the problem my surgeon was addressing, and I'm more inclined to take notice of him with a lifetines experience in the field than a blogger on the web.
It could well be that dogs and humans are not comparable, but I was saddened to note that our Jack Russell was becoming creaky, with his movement looking increasingly restricted and painful. More in hope than expectation I started giving him Joint Care (TM), which is basically a mix of Glucosamine Sulfate and green mussel powder. Within weeks he showed an definite improvement and never seemed to suffer from his joints again.
In his case, for sure, it was not a placebo effect; he thought he was just getting a new daily treat!
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 30 Sep 14 at 6:37am
Posted By: pondlife1736
Date Posted: 30 Sep 14 at 8:46am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac
green mussel powder.
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I bet that would cure anything 
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Posted By: Chris Turner
Date Posted: 30 Sep 14 at 9:29am
Your basing your opinion of one photo?
Peter started the event with three people in the boat, he took one out for the Saturday and Sunday, not really the done thing, you should start and finish an event with the same number of crew...
The forecast was four knots and it did get up to around eight, you would expect to be hiking? I would be in a fifteen....
Peter and Myles would both be around mid 70kg's....
Cowes week, 20 knots....
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Posted By: Null
Date Posted: 30 Sep 14 at 9:35am
Having seen and raced against the VX1 on several occasions now Its a lovely, lovely boat. So Fast and beautifully made. I would love to own one if i lived anywhere remotely practical for one!
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