Barts Bash Data
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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
URL: http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11675
Printed Date: 10 Jul 25 at 1:57pm
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Topic: Barts Bash Data
Posted By: JimC
Subject: Barts Bash Data
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 2:46pm
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This is going to provide quite a spectacular snapshot on worldwide popularity of classes, and no doubt when its out there all sorts of enthusiasts will be merrily spinning about how their boat is really much more popular than it looks in spite of the fact that only three of them raced in the whole world...
Suppose I could get in first, the Canoe's excuse will be that a significant percentage of the top end of our world fleet is on container ships coming back from San Francisco... |
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Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 3:44pm
| I was surprised with so few 505s. I'm not sure the data will tell us anything more than who did the bash. |
Posted By: fish n ships
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 3:47pm
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Seeing as wind strengths are included in the delivery of the results it would be interesting to apply the PY formula to the whole data set (grouped by wind strength) and see what the differences between the "wind strength" PY's are for the various classes. I think they may be a lot closer (and possibly not a million miles from the published PY) than people qould imagine. |
Posted By: Alistair426
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 4:28pm
| If you actually look at what the 'results' are throwing up you will realise that it was just a nice day out and nothing, except numbers of entrants (and they aren't even picking those up accurately) has any comparative relevance. Shame really but only to be expected. |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 5:39pm
| The only conclusion is everybody (probably) had a good day's sailing. The results/speeds mean nothing, especially as you were allowed to set a "round the cans" course which might not have included a biased beat or no beat at all. I guess you have to have a "result" or else it would not count as a "race" for Mr Guiness. |
Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 25 Sep 14 at 5:44pm
| I think it'll be quite good for classes on how healthy/how many boats are actually club sailing probably better than looking at National attendance list. |
Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 5:34pm
Just had our result through for the X1 we sailed ..... PY 888 (quite chuffed ) 
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Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 9:57am
| Our results are through now...but...our wind speed was 0-7 and the shown wind speed is 8-18. I suppose it dosent matter. Shame though for our winner who looks to have performed badly in class. |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 12:38pm
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Same problem for me iitick. I finished miles in front of a very well sailed streaker at our club but in class I am very well down. Doesn't matter though really, it was a good day for the right reasons ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 2:50pm
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They seem to have changed my class! I entered as and was sailing a D-One, although checking now I'm in a D-Zero but no result posted as I assume they haven't worked out as number for the Zero yet! I'll have to have a word with our results coordinator. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 3:00pm
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They're clearly having a great deal of trouble with the results. My own feeling is that it will be a while before there's something definitive. I don't envy them.
Going for their own handicaps was certainly a very big challenge because that leaves them the problem of identifying each class, highlighted by the observation that a number of sailors in the UK at well known catamaran clubs seem to have been sailing the US Tornado centreboard monohull class way above its normal speed potential rather than the International Tornado catamaran at its normal sort of speed... |
Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 05 Oct 14 at 11:05pm
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I was told today we were doing quite well in the 2000's in the declared results so far. 6th of 150. I am sure we will drop down as still a lot of clubs still to declare. But quite surprising since we had both kids on board and had a reefed main as not to scare them, even though it turned out light. We did upset the laser reps in their Bahia catching them up at one point. But shows what a difficult job they have taken on with this data.
Andy ------------- Andy Mck |
Posted By: andy101
Date Posted: 12 Oct 14 at 8:43pm
Just watched the boomcam vid from Sir Ben, love the bit when another 400 capsizes on top of him 
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Posted By: JohnJack
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 3:41am
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Great video of Ben sailing a 400 (??) Just found myself shouting at crew to 'help out' a little Doesn't hike, doesn't move in when rig is coming on top, where is the kite...... Also she looks dressed more fitting for yachting rather than dinghy sailing. That is also a very slim line buoyancy aid she must be wearing under her yachty jacket...... Just a thought?
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:20am
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Looked like a man having fun on the water with his other half (I assume) on a fairly windy day - both enjoying themselves (kite might have stopped crew having enjoying herself?), though I agree I'd have thought he'd have had access to more dinghy style gear. BA could be under... but unlikely?! Enjoyed the boom cam though, which is rare - liked the port tack mark rounding, and liked that he left room for a Topper to do the same late on. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: andy101
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 8:34pm
I think his engagement was announced around this time, if the kite had gone up all bets may have been off 
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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 8:47pm
yes- she had BA on her chest (oohh err) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2764838/Georgie-Thompson-assists-beau-Sir-Ben-Ainslie-aboard-love-boat-Barts-Bash.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2764838/Georgie-Thompson-assists-beau-Sir-Ben-Ainslie-aboard-love-boat-Barts-Bash.html ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:09pm
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What a strange website the Mail online is.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:35pm
| 'all in one' ......and I got some grubby white cons like Georgie! |
Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:42pm
better than the blue suede shoes on Serben.... ------------- |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 14 Oct 14 at 11:07pm
| No excuse for those they're not even a sponsor's product! |