Dinghy development: Rs 100

Rs 100

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Topic: Rs 100

Posted By: Dignhysailor
Subject: Rs 100
Date Posted: 13 Sep 14 at 9:00pm

What is the lowest weight someone could be able to sail the RS 100? I'm a 17 year old boy who weighs 60/65kg. I'm also a dinghy instructor, so pretty competent! I was just wondering whether I would be able to handle it. Any thoughts?

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 13 Sep 14 at 9:42pm

If you sail inland, then I'd say yes. If on open water, then no.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686

Posted By: Dignhysailor
Date Posted: 13 Sep 14 at 10:11pm

Thanks- will be sailing inland so that should be fine! What size sail would be good for current weight (would have thought 8.4m2, but would obviously want biggest sail possible.....)?

Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 2:02am

You'll be fine with the 8.4- enjoy!

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Posted By: Pabs
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 4:43am

If you sail Inland and your pretty fit, willing to really work hard and hike hard I would go for the bigger sail as you will enjoy it a lot more. I have never sailed the RS100 but I use to sail a 300 I was under weight for the B rig but I never regretted it!

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Boatless and Clubless

Posted By: Pabs
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 4:44am

Go test sail and see what the guys on the circuit are racing with

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Boatless and Clubless

Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 4:59am

because its a kite boat you don't have the issue that you want rag on the runs so badly that if you have any chance of getting upwind with more sail you take it. But the RS100 has a reputation of not being so great on round the cans courses, so if you sail those you might feel the benefit of more rag on reaches.

Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 7:28am

Quite a difference between 60 and 65 kg. Keep eating the pies.

But at either, I'd recommend the 8.4 over the 10.2. I use the 10.2 at Frensham and 8.4 on the circuit but I'm just under 80kg, quite a difference. A 100 will be a very different test of your competence than instructing, it's certainly no Pico or Bahia. There are times it will catch you out and bite your ar$e but that's part of the point right? But worth it? Absolutely.

Once you feel comfortable sailing the boat, come and join us on a circuit for event or two.

If you want any tips on sailing the 100, by all means PM me or post on the forum at RS100sailing.org or ask any of us at an event, we're all happy to share ideas and experience.

Originally posted by JimC

But the RS100 has a reputation of not being so great on round the cans courses

Grr, not this again. For "reputation" read "one person on here has repeatedly expressed a view".

I love sailing mine RTC; on Frensham I'm as competitive on PYS as I would be in my 200 or Laser. It's maybe not a bandit but I have more fun sailing it than pretty much anything else I've tried over my 4 decades of dinghy racing. On a one sail reach, just pull the plate up and sit well back!

Originally posted by Dignhysailor

Any thoughts?

back to the weight thing; it'd be interesting to know what you think you might weigh in 2-3 year's time. If the same, whilst you'll manage for club racing, frankly circuit competitiveness is compromised under around 75kg. So, as others have said, try one but set it up right. Hence don't be shy of block-to-blocking the GNAV and max-ing the Cunningham tension upwind when over-powered, then ease sheet rather than stuff it laser-style. Let 'em both off before you bear off, then hoist and go for it. Rather like a cat, the speed can be deceptive; you look back and wonder 'where did they all go'

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Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 7:28am

Originally posted by Pabs

If you sail Inland and your pretty fit, willing to really work hard and hike hard I would go for the bigger sail as you will enjoy it a lot more. I have never sailed the RS100 but I use to sail a 300 I was under weight for the B rig but I never regretted it!

At 65kg you will not be able to sail the boat with the big rig - don't waste your time with it.

The 8.4 will be a handful but may be possible in lighter breezes

Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 7:33am

Originally posted by fab100

Grr, not this again. For "reputation" read "one person on here has repeatedly expressed a view".

Nope. We've got the demo boat at my club at the moment, and its pretty much a universal opinion.

Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 9:39am

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by fab100

Grr, not this again. For "reputation" read "one person on here has repeatedly expressed a view".

Nope. We've got the demo boat at my club at the moment, and its pretty much a universal opinion.

Thanks Jim.

It's worth remebering the young man is 17- if that isn't an age for ragging about and hiking your guts out when is? There's years ahead to worry about suitability for the water and PY b**locks! But do go for the 8.4 rig- it will be better at your weight and you can sell it easier when you're ready to try something else.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 12:36pm

Its a modern boat for a teen who wants to test his abilities and sail something exciting. Can't see a down side.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686

Posted By: Dignhysailor
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 5:31pm

Thanks all for great comments- just have to convince my dad to let me work and save up and buy one !

Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 6:37pm

I can't comment on the 100 as I've never sailed one, but if that's the kind of boat you're after I'd suggest you try out a D-One as well. I've heard there's one of the early round-decked boats for sale at around £4.5K, so similar money to what's being asked for older RS's.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 7:51pm

Good idea- might prove to be a safer investment too.

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Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 8:23pm

Don't even consider the big sail, it is much less forgiving and will spoil the downwind stuff- the kite does the important work there anyway. The 8.4 will prove quite enough of a handful upwind with any breeze! Personally at that weight I'd look at the smaller 7.something sail. In the 300 you could depower the big rig enough to make the size difference irrelevant but the 100 is not the same even without the kite, and with it it's a no-brainer.

Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 9:35pm

At that weight the D One would be really, really hard work.

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the same, but different...

Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 10:30pm

It certainly would Nessa, but I can't believe that an RS100, especially the big rig, would be any easier.

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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 10:42pm

I'm about 65kg but not tall at 5'8" and I'm fine in light to medium and although I love the boat in bigger breeze I accept I'm not as competitive as heavier guys uphill. I raced a couple of others earlier this summer and noticed it :)

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Keith
RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)