Expression Query?
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Expression Query?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Expression Query?
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 3:04pm
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I keep reading the expression 'Cat rigged' when applied to the Aero, is it a Mercan thing? Can someone explain where it came from? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 3:36pm
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I thought it was a euphemism.... naturally you should use the 9m rig (all racing sails need to be 8.0+) However there's an opportunity to 'pussy-out' and put a 7m rig on it when it's a bit windy... hence 'cat' rigged. Not quite sure what the 5m rig is for... storm sails on a Design Category C boat, whatever next? ------------- |
Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 4:26pm
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It's a 'merican thing, probably originated around Nantucket sort of area - it means a boat with a single mast and fore and aft sail - i.e. a Laser, Finn, Aero etc. They have things called Catboats round there - rigged like that. No relation of a catamaran. ------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 4:27pm
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Historically, the mast was a lot further forward than in the dinghies we are talking about - almost up in the bows.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 4:28pm
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 4:38pm
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Is that not a sort of gaff rig Rupert, I'm not up to speed on all these rig descriptor terms I just about know what a Bermudan rigged thing is and that a Mirror is gaff rigged, a Gaff in my vernacular is somewhere you live.. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 5:29pm
It is a gaff, but you can also have them with other shape sails - a wishbone bermudan for example: ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 5:33pm
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A Mirror has a gaff (or did - mine still does) but is gunter rigged - the gaff ends up parallel to the mast, almost. The Mirror mainsail has no change of direction where the gaff ends and mast takes over, and will actually set (if likely badly) on a bermudan mast. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: JohnJack
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 6:42pm
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Like mentioned above I have head of a cat rigged boat as a boat with a single mast carried well forward and a single large sail, usually a gaff rig or freedom rig (like a wishbone rig). Usually they have a shallow draft and wide ish beam. More for cargo as the mast is well out the way than racing. cant imagine they would perform to well. There is however the Melges C Scow which I think classes it self as a Cat rigged boat (possibly the reason for the C??) Looks kind of what you would get if you rafted two fireballs together and but a single mast forward between the bows. http://www.melges.com/boat.php?p=pages/boats/C-scow |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 23 Jun 14 at 6:43pm
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Well it's answered my question, we wouldn't use the term to describe a rig and that's the main thing, I shall, in future, steer clear of that sailing anarchy place during periods of inactivity here.. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |