Layering under/over Long John wetsuit
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Topic: Layering under/over Long John wetsuit
Posted By: jaydub
Subject: Layering under/over Long John wetsuit
Date Posted: 04 Jun 14 at 5:55pm
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I've just bought a Gill long john wet suit and wondered what the best gear was to layer with it.
I'll revert back to a dry suit for really cold conditions, so just looking for stuff to keep me warm for Sping and Autumn sailing.
I already have a Gill Hydrophobe top and spray top, but is it worth considering a Speedskin top or a Thermal top as well or am I likely to be warm enough as is.
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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 04 Jun 14 at 7:55pm
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I wear Ronstan skiff longjohns all year round on my RS700.
In the summer I tend to wear a shortsleeve rash vest underneath, unless its really hot when I just dont bother. I might then wear another rashvest over the top if its a bit nippier. In the spring and autumn, I wear a Rooster hot-top underneath and a Musto Aquafleece on top. Last year for the really hot summer days I acquired a very thin 3/4 length Neilpryde longjohn wetsuit. In my Grad I tend to sail in my Queensport 1/2 length hikers with the hot top and aquafleece, but I only sail this boat from Easter to October. |
Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 05 Jun 14 at 8:47pm
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Thanks Craiggo. Funnily enough I considered the Ronstan Skiff Suit, but the lady I spoke to at Trident couldn't explain the reason for the cost difference to the Gill and I knew the Gill would fit.
Sounds as though both the Speedskin and the Thermal Top would be a good option except for the very coldest days. |
Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 05 Jun 14 at 9:44pm
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I have a couple of Long John suits and generally just wear a long-sleeve rash top and a spray top. If it's a bit chillier, then Rooster polypro top, bottom and socks. I've just done a few days at Bala in that horrible rainy weather recently and that kit kept me ok all the time to be fair. I've recently bought a Gill suit too and am amazed at how warm it is - despite it being fairly thin. My Magic Marine one is superb in pretty much all but the coldest of the late-Winter...otherwise it's pretty much longjohn/top/spraytop all the way  ------------- Lightning368 'All the Gear' (409), Lightning368 'Sprite' (101), Laser (big number) 'Yellow Jack', RS Vareo (432)'The Golden Rays' |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 05 Jun 14 at 11:02pm
| Jaydub, what are you sailing? I'd be surprised if you'd need a speedskin under a long John unless it's really cold. |
Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 10:35am
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I use Under Armour base layers under a 3mm wetsuit in the winter, with a thin fleece (Musto) and a Musto aquafleece over the top. And hot socks inside wetsuit boots. It works in all but the coldest conditions. The Under Armour base layers are just unbelievably warm. ------------- What could possibly go wrong? |
Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 1:16pm
We sail a 200.
The LJ replaces a glued and blind stitched short arm wetsuit. The LJ is much thinner and flatlock stitched, so my initial concern is about whether I will be warm enough without more layering solution. Fleaberto's comments seeem to allay that concern.
I'm relatively happy to be dissuaded from the speedskin. I tried the Gul equivalent on last week and had a problem with sizing. The large was too big for my shoulders; the medium too small for my waist! The large took me about 10 seconds to get off; the medium more like 10 minutes.
It looks as though I just need to try it out first (and as it is a birthday present I'm told I have to wait!!). In the meantime, I'd still appreciate further feedback based on experience.
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Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 1:57pm
Looks like you need to work on those shoulders or stay away from the pies  ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 2:02pm
That's a bit unfair on a man no longer in the first flush of youth - everything migrates southwards (although admittedly it's a bit less of an issue for blokes.)
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Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 3:30pm
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no age discrimination here!
I've found the rooster hot tops a pretty good under layer, bit warmer than a polypro top, especially if you sit around a bit between races. ------------- Musto Skiff and Solo sailor |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 4:46pm
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thats the thing, it depends on the weather and how active a boat you are sailing.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 5:01pm
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That's why I asked what boat, Nessa.
As a 200 helm you aren't going to be overheating, and in between races it might even get a bit chilly but a rooster hot top, or any other branded neoprene backed rash vest should do you fine with the LJ and an aqua-fleece from either Musto or Rooster. |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 06 Jun 14 at 8:45pm
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I have the Magic Marine aquafleece, it is toasty. Sometimes it's worth having a spray top in a dry bag for in between races.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 07 Jun 14 at 3:14pm
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Nessa, is your MM aqauafleece the Match spraytop? Still favouring Gill stuff as I can get it locally and I prefer to do my bit to ensure that the shop survives. The only thing I don't like on the Gill is the high neck. The Musto and MM stuff looks better from that viewpoint. I do think the Gill material is much nicer than the Musto though. Any idea how the MM compares to the Musto or Gill equivalents?
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