illegal buoyancy aid?
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Topic: illegal buoyancy aid?
Posted By: yellowwelly
Subject: illegal buoyancy aid?
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 9:56am
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http://www.gul.com/buoyancy-aids/gul-hydr8-buoyancy-aid_gm0370-a4bkcy-m.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.gul.com/buoyancy-aids/gul-hydr8-buoyancy-aid_gm0370-a4bkcy-m.html is that a weight jacket then?
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 11:00am
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Interestingly Therese Zabel (Spain) tried to use something very similar for the Olympics but it was ruled illegal. Must have been for Atlanta because I think we were still allowed 3kg of weight up until 1994. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: MattHarris
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 11:15am
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I spoke to our local chandler about this when i was buying a bouyancy aid and he said that they are designed for "training" and as said above not legal. Can't believe someone would design something for a sport that is illegal to use when doing that sport. ------------- Phantom 1175 - Alice http://www.thelostpenguin.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.thelostpenguin.co.uk |
Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 11:41am
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It's designed for kite surfing. It isn't illegal to sail with it on. It may be deemed illegal to race with it in some classes if the water bag is attached and full, the answer, don't sail with it full of water... If anyone moans about it then by all means, let them borrow it and see if it makes them go any faster, most likely you would still beat them. 1kg is nothing, a good fry up weighs 1kg.  What I find more stupid is that the capacity of the water container is only 1 litre. You should be drinking far more than that in a day of racing. More like 5 or 6 litres in a physical boat. In reality this product doesn't really solve a problem.
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:04pm
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:11pm
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So as long as you do not have the drinking attachment attached to the bouyancy aid you can race with it. AIUI there drinks 'pack' is an optional extra that you fasten to the BA somehow. ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:16pm
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Have you actually even looked at the buoyancy aid? It comes with an OPTIONAL water container which is purchased separately. The buoyancy aid alone is not illegal. Simple. Attaching a water container for training to save having to take a bottle or have a RIB to carry the 5 or 6 litres that you should be drinking would be fine, that's where this has potential. Note. For racing most race committees will happily take a bag of lunch or water bottles for you which can be collected between races. This can be done on either the RC boat or safety boats. If they say no then they are very narrow minded because hydration is such an important part of safety on the water.
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:16pm
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but in a sport where we rely so heavily on obvious rules observation and self policing, is it a good idea to race with something that knowingly appears to be illegal? ------------- |
Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:19pm
| It doesn't appear to be illegal. That buoyancy aid as you buy it off the shelf is not illegal. It becomes illegal when you also purchase the optional bottle and fill it with water and wear it for racing. So no, I wouldn't say it is a bad idea to use that buoyancy aid. |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:28pm
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Seems a good idea for training. Also great for other sports like kayaking. Obviously we do not want to encourage the old heavy clothing game, but I suspect the variation in what people normally wear for dinghy sailing would be enough for some people to add a litre of water without being heavier than other people who've chosen different gear. |
Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 12:43pm
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It says "high energy watersports". I guess us dinghy sailors need not worry about it then ;-) Looks perfect for my windsurfing son.
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 2:05pm
So a windsurfer or kite surfer (it says "kite" on it, that's the market it is targetting) that happened to be doing a bit of dinghy racing with the drinks pack removed is fully compliant with the rules. No harm done. If you're buying a BA purely for dinghy racing I can see no reason to buy the "Hydr8" BA. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 2:49pm
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'1kg is nothing, a good fry up weighs 1kg.'
That's not a good fry up, not even first breakfast  ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 2:56pm
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There's nothing that f*cks me off more in the world than a crap fry-up...... fry-ups must include more than one sausage, and never be advertised as sausages plural, only to deposit a single sausage upon the plate that arrives to the table. I will phone Trading Standards on the spot under such circumstances. It's a moral outrage! They must also contain black pudding, foodstuff of the Gods.
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Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 10 Mar 14 at 3:18pm
FTFY |