Today at the show I bought...
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Topic: Today at the show I bought...
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Today at the show I bought...
Date Posted: 01 Mar 14 at 6:27pm
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So who got what? Anyone buy a boat?
I'm going tomorrow, so I'll see how empty my wallet is then. |
Replies:
Posted By: MB226
Date Posted: 01 Mar 14 at 8:02pm
| Yup, a D0... !! |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 14 at 8:10pm
| Mb226, good work! |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 01 Mar 14 at 10:18pm
| An Oppy and two Holt Blow boats. |
Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:06am
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Good man (or woman?!)
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:23am
+1 ------------- |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:27am
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A cup of coffee. It wasn't that good. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:38am
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A beer. And just the one. Wasn't there for any shopping purposes and left early as I had other plans ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:20am
| With you there Nessa - I almost couldn't afford the Oppy after I'd bought the coffee! |
Posted By: Er-Indoors
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:24am
A class association polo shirt and.....ordered a new Lightning! In purple and silver grey.  ------------- Lightning 418 "Octarine" |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:52am
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In my head I bought an Aero and D-Zero but in reality my card didn't leave my wallet. The house deposit is more important (in the eyes of my other half). ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 11:51am
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I went wild. I bought a pack of self tapping screws and a pair of small bulls eye fairleads. I liked the look of the D0, though couldn't say the same for the Aero on a quick look, but since it would make no sense for me to buy either I didn't look very closely. Neither looked half as nice as the Bonezzi on the Contender stand, but that's no real surprise.
------------- Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59 |
Posted By: Jon Meadowcroft
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 2:22pm
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I purchased an Aero 9. My understanding of the performance difference between an 80kg National 12 and a 70kg National 12 means that the difference between a 44kg D0 and a 30kg Aero 9 is substantial - I expect to see and feel the difference both afloat and ashore. D0 does indeed look very nice though, although the stylist lack of a gunwhale overhang is not in my view very practical. And I can get a smaller rig on the Aero 9 for the rest of the family. Great to be excited to purchase at a show and to have such a choice. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 3:17pm
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I dunno, it just bemuses me. I want a boat I like sailing, (after all its got to be a good enough experience to make me climb out of bed early on Sunday morning) and the thought of buying something off the shelf untried seems quite alien to me.
Buying a brand new boat of a type you've never sailed: how can you possibly know you'll like it? There are perfectly acceptable and popular boats out there that I personally don't like sailing much. No reflection on the boat, just me. |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 3:49pm
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Jim, the Devoti offer is refundable upon test sail. So in principle you are buying your build slot and securing the special price. ------------- |
Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 5:22pm
Hi Jon, The min weight for n12s is conservative allowing a robust boat. I also understand the almost catastrophic difference in robustness between a 6kg and 8kg windsurf board. All the best with the Aero. Dan |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 5:27pm
| A class membership and a length of rope for a mainsheet - and yes, remembering last year's comments, it was cheaper than the store price. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 7:04pm
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2 pasties, a pint of mild and a bottle of Fanta! And I was genuinely left with no money in my wallet after that - they even let me off about 30p...
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 7:06pm
Congrats- enjoy your new boat. If you end up with more than one hull in th family then that stacking system is utterly genius. That to me is the USP as so far we don't know the all up sailing weight do we? Personally I'd still go for the one where the rocker line and chines are based on the designer's target sailing characteristics, not for plugging into the deck moulding 40 boats per container, but without a test sail across the prototypes it would be very tricky to asses whether this has manifested into any performance compromises. Anyway, both boats look great from the photos and looking forward to seeing them on the water. A massive boost to the UK sailing scene if they continue to sell as well as has been reported from this weekend. Jim- my experience with RS would suggest that if you test sailed and then for whatever reason wanted to cancel, then they are more than accommodating about a return of your deposit, just like the Suntouched offer Russ explains. Just an assumption, but I think one that is well founded anyway. ------------- |
Posted By: RichTea
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:39pm
A few people were lifting the Aero 7 when i passed, it lifted with ease, even they were suprised ------------- RS200 |
Posted By: themeaningoflife
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 8:50pm
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I was one of the people who lifted it. WE were quoted an all up weight of 32 kg, and whilst they were originally annoyed at Devoti nicking the name after overhearing discussions at the London Boat Show, Aero does lead nicely into Aerofoil... ------------- Cambridge University Lightweight Rowing Club RS800 1128 kindly sponsored by http://www.rwo-marine.com" rel="nofollow - RWO Marine |
Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:00pm
Great to see you and that tall young man you had with you. Lightning stand looked good. Sorry we didn't get to have a drink. I will make sure we do next time we meet. If you are going to the joint moth/lightning open at broxbourne, I promise to get my wallet out
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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:04pm
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I bought £50 worth of blocks for my Grad, and some trapeze discs for the 700.
Had a great day, including a good chat to Dan, Tim Harper on the GP stand, Charlie Chandler & Rodney on the D-One stand and several others who put up with me! Alex Scoles OK was just stunning and was surely the most attractive boat of the show. It seemed that almost everyone who went past the RS Aero stand had a go at picking it up. Great, but after six months in the hands of an ape I dont think it will look so pretty. |
Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:06pm
Nicked at London boat show? Check out the title of this video from October last year. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=SacBcSjek8A |
Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:20pm
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I bought some rope after an interesting discussion from a chap on the Marlow stand. Then talked at length to a very interesting man on the International Paints stand. It's not all about new boats! I was very tempted to have the icon on the stand, but unless our club relaxes the minimum PN of 1000 rule it would have been risky. ------------- Stewart |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:27pm
Yes wife and 6 year old had a go. If there had been a few less RS employees around I think they'd have made a run for it!
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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 9:31pm
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I bought a set of Rooster gloves, a new RaceSkin and the boy got some new gloves and the Zhyk boots he's been after (at a very good price, esp considering the P&B vouchers he won last year).
No food or drinks purchased as Mrs B sent us off this morning with a bag full of packed lunch, bottles of water and a flask of coffee (she's awesome!). ------------- |
Posted By: ChrisI
Date Posted: 02 Mar 14 at 10:05pm
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"Nicked at London boat show?
Check out the title of this video from October last year. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=SacBcSjek8A" Yes, I don't think either of you can be too precious on this one..... 
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9035&PN=1&title=x1-announces-x0 |
Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 8:43am
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A lime green Sandiline hoodie for my secretary, because I know where the power lies ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 8:44am
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And the Comet Zero predates by a decade or so. Personally, I think RS had a lucky escape on the name, which often denotes failure.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 8:56am
So do I. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 9:31am
Are you saying someone from RS told you Devoti had plagiarised their name?
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 9:46am
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So there's some blue sky intention to put hydrofoils on the Aero too? ------------- |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 9:47am
So they picked a name of a Chocolate bar which is famed for being made out of more air than chocolate...hmmm To be fair i find the whole Dinghy name scenario really cringe worthy. Some kind of through back where adjectives were a companies main marketing tool. I think the world has vastly moved on since then. That's why i always liked the RS100,200,300 etc. naming concept. The brand is RS the number is the product. Which kind of works with the D-0, D-1 (maybe more to come i dont know)
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 10:02am
I was talking to Dan about the concept and wether it could fit his Punk-Zero, having just seen the Laser kit, but three grand? I don't think it's what most people are looking for, those things are aimed at the same market that is attracted by Kite Surfing or are already well catered for by the real deal of Moth sailing, you'd also need to make sure the boat had a daggerboard slot big enough to accept the Laser Cassette to use that turnkey system that was on the Sea Sure stand. But if it could be done, the beauty of the system would be that it could easily be switched back to conventional foils to go race normally on then switch back to foiling for fun, would sufficient folk want to race on foils, I'm not sure, don't think so. I wonder how many they sold at the show, if any. Three Grand, it's just the wrong side of impulse purchase accessory threshold imv, that needs a one in front of the figure. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 10:03am
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I think D-Zero works though, especially in light of the DZero project in the US trying to get a fundamental understanding of matter. (for the layman, it's Cern with cheeseburgers, cheerleaders and Uncle Sam footing the bill) Both the D-Zero and RS Aero seem to stripping back all the b**locks we've been fed for 20 odd years, and returning us to what really matters... it's what made the Laser so great in the 70 and 80s before it had the critical mass of the ubiquitous fleet racing chariot. But it's 2014... and a 40 year old design should not really be the 'go to' boat for the future of recreational sailing- the world has moved on, and dinghy sailing seems to be finally catching up. Good luck to both boats, whatever they're called won't matter once you're sailing either. ------------- |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 10:05am
agreed 1,800 quid and I'd be tempted- but 3 grand, no way. By the time you've bought the boat then you might as well just get an old Mistress and learn to fly 'properly'. ------------- |
Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 12:44pm
The Aero is incredibly easy to lift! Photo by Tom Gruitt / http://www.tom-gruitt.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.tom-gruitt.co.uk  |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 12:47pm
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Looks good from that angle - very simple shape, not too extreme, no added complications. And clearly light.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 12:50pm
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I think the major benefit of the Aero's lack of weight will be with the small rigs - the Laser 4.7 is a really good boat but that hull is just too heavy for many of the youngsters sailing it, both afloat and ashore. The same goes for the Topper 4.2. ------------- |
Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 12:58pm
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I bought subscription to Y&Y.
I went to offer Lee on Solent sc as a Championship venue for 2017 onwards and was received well by all classes we managed to see people on. If we missed your stand sorry ran out of time on the pink ticket. But the car park being full by 11am meant walking miles all uphill and the accident on the North Circular on the way home meant we were delayed by over an hour. So please move the show to the NEC, better road access, lots of parking and one big hall to have a better feel for all exhibitors. ------------- Gordon Lossc |
Posted By: scotsfinn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:02pm
+1  ------------- Largs Sailing Club. D-Zero GBR 57, B14 744 www.blueseaconsultingllp.com |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:04pm
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NEC sounds like a plan, but forget Birmingham for the night out.... there's something http://www.cazbar.co.uk" rel="nofollow - far more classy down our local in Stratford. ------------- |
Posted By: fdsailor
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:14pm
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I bought what seemed like a school dinner downstairs for £9.50...not cheap. Anyways, FWIW the Aero and D-0 both looked great. The D-0 has about 40-50cm more LWL than the Aero from what I could see, which will make more of a difference in most conditions than 12kg of hull weight. The RS is a tiny boat, even compared to the D-0, no wonder it is so light. It should also be a rocket in a breeze off the wind. It was interesting to note that I overheard various RS reps telling people that they would have to be a bit careful with the boats as they wouldn't take a bashing, and that the construction would be potentially prone to dents (that's the price you pay for the benefits). But when I asked directly after declaring my interest as press, the story I got was more about how they had done lots of testing and put material in all the right places, a different spin on the same thing. I suspect the truth is somewhere between the two. Head to head I'm guessing that the D-0 will have it upwind, but the Aero might get up and plane a little earlier offwind. Be fun to do a direct sail-off in a variety of conditions. Both boats look like they will reward athletic hiking when racing, but you could probably blast around without breaking yourself. I don't fancy the future chances of the Laser, not unless they can get a handle on cost as these boats look like they will be far superior in every other respect. ------------- http://www.caledoniasailing.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.caledoniasailing.com |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:14pm
| Ally Pally has a bit more style than the Birmingham Cattle sheds though doesn't it? Probably works out cheaper too. |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:23pm
I could not agree more, the show should have moved to NEC decades ago, transport in and out is so much better, so much more room, so much better facilities... the list goes on. Costs could be the issue, I know what I pay for exhibiting at NEC events, but this is more representative of the audience than the venue. I'd be amazed and very very surprised if the costs haven't been looked at. |
Posted By: scotsfinn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:45pm
Gets my vote .... We could even get there from an independent Scotland in a day - border guards permitting. ------------- Largs Sailing Club. D-Zero GBR 57, B14 744 www.blueseaconsultingllp.com |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 1:56pm
NEC.....  Excellent Rail link Excellent Road Links More parking than you could ever need Car Park to Hall buses Brilliant exhibitor facilities and access = Big increase in attendance Ally Pally......  It's in London - Most sensible people try to get out of London at the weekends. In my lifetime the show has been at Pickets Lock, Crystal Palace and Ally Pally, all a pain to get to, all focused on London, can't we please at least try other venues, somewhere with decent access would be great.... |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 2:00pm
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Just remember some British Pounds when you cross over SF.... I heard the Scottish Hryvnia (the only currency union you'll get boys) is on the floor again... ------------- |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 2:33pm
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NEC would be lower turn outs ... plus we'd never get in as the show is too small for them. Like it or not the critical mass for sailing is in the south ...
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Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 2:45pm
That's simply not true, I've attended and exhibited at shows much smaller than the Dinghy Show at the NEC, there are many different sized halls and often these are sectioned off to provide the optimum area. In fact some of the halls would not be large enough for the Dinghy Exhibition. I do not believe turnouts would be smaller and neither do you know that either, you'd be surprised at how many people would get there quicker and at lower cost than they can to London venues like Ally Pally, there are reasons that the NEC was built in Birmingham and these reasons explain why it remains such a busy venue for shows and exhibitions. Big boat sailing is certainly focused on the south coast, but dinghy sailing enjoys a much better spread across the country. |
Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 2:54pm
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I live within 15 mins of the n.e.c.
But for variety of reasons I still think the dinghy show is a better fit at ally pally.
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 3:04pm
Living in Cornwall I've just had a check of train times to both venues. Plymouth to Ally Pally - 4h 44mins Plymouth to NEC - 3h 54mins It seems a little quicker for us down in the Westcountry anyway... ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 3:09pm
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Took us well over an hour to get the 9 miles to our hotel on Saturday. I'd vote for the NEC.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 3:22pm
Me too! ------------- Steve B RS300 411 https://www.facebook.com/groups/55859303803" rel="nofollow - RS300 page |
Posted By: fdsailor
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:08pm
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+1. They might actually get some Scottish visitors too!
------------- http://www.caledoniasailing.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.caledoniasailing.com |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:28pm
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The NEC is a horrible souless shed. the Palace is the most characterful show venue in the country. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:31pm
+1
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:40pm
I'd imagine any work related conference can feel soulless... try Franfurt Messe ... if I never have to eat another Chicken Schnitzel I won't die unhappy. Anyway Ally Pally doesn't suck as much Excel, at least it's sort of on the right side of London... ------------- |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:43pm
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I like ally pally as a venue, it's just such an arse ache to get to and from! Took me 4hours to get home Saturday and I left early! Keep it away from London please...I spend my life trying to avoid the place with work ------------- |
Posted By: chrisg
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:44pm
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I'd vote for the NEC (apart from their £12 car parking). I don't visit the dinghy show for the architecture, I go to look at the boats. ------------- |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 4:48pm
I agree the Palace is a lovely place but....... When I do go I go to see the boats and meet up with friends old and new, I don't go for the architecture of the venue. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:00pm
You wouldn't get into the NEC for what you pay to get in to Ally Pally, in fact you can thank me for the fact the dinghy show is there, we used to run a windsurf show just after the Dinghy show back in the 80's and we chose Alexander Palace, at the time The Dinghy show had just moved from Pickets Lock down to Crystal Palace, I used to go down there and leaflet the cars in the car park to try and free their minds even back then (I should be sainted the efforts I've been through trying to save you lot from yourselves). The RYA used to come to our show and after we sold it and the company we sold it to screwed up and went bust, the slot opened up and the RYA jumped in with both feet and probably got the great deal we'd negotiated, telling them all water sports folk were poor.. Did they ever thank me? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:05pm
| NEC is only slightly further for us, but unless they could offer free or cheap parking I wouldn't want to go, as that would double the cost of just getting in. Trains are expensive and would be too many changes - we took four of us to Ally Pally in one car for about the cost of one person on the train and took a lot less time to get there. |
Posted By: scotsfinn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:13pm
Yep it is horrible and souless, but it is in the middle of the country and accessible to all. At the end of the day There is life north of Watford Gap .... honestly there really is! .... and we'd like to get to see the dinghy show too! ------------- Largs Sailing Club. D-Zero GBR 57, B14 744 www.blueseaconsultingllp.com |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:20pm
| God luck with the trains from Cornwall, Tom! |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:24pm
The NEC is only a few miles north of the Watford Gap mind you... ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:27pm
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It's bad enough to have to go "North" of the river, all that air pollution, funny accents and blokes walking round with really silly shtreimel hats... It's like Alien Nation. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: scotsfinn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:37pm
Funny that , I moved North of the River 35yrs ago (I assume you mean the Thames (there others north of Watford gap ... don't you know) .... quite nice really and the funny accents now seem to be south of the River ... Old Chap!  ------------- Largs Sailing Club. D-Zero GBR 57, B14 744 www.blueseaconsultingllp.com |
Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:37pm
Isn't that Kent?
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 5:56pm
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kent has it's own North / south issues... Basically once you've seen whitstable there's not a lot else worth visiting there, except the Chunnel of course when the booze and fags were cheaper... I guess Bewl would be nice, but I think they've got a reputation for being a tad unfriendly. ------------- |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 6:25pm
Funny, never had you down as a GP14 sailor... do you wear a funny hat? 
The again, right up North, you're probably more likely to have one of these...  ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 6:28pm
Bewl? You wouldn't last five minutes there, they have a disciplinary committee, you get hauled up before it for things like sailing to fast... ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 7:19pm
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Quite agree that Ally Pally is lovely - looking out over the londo skyline, pretty building and all that, but once inside I'm not sure it makes much difference where you are, and the journey really is foul. I have no clue on the prices at the NEC, or what it is like, as I've never been there, but there must be similar shows - camping ones and the like - which can't be much more to get in? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 7:47pm
| NEC is fine, but the cost would be more, because if you go to small shows there, you have to pay to park. This would add £5 to £10 to the cost. |
Posted By: Time Lord
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 8:02pm
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You would save that car parking charge as you wold not have to spend half an hour or more struggling to get to Ally Pally through north London traffic.
Our extreme northern friends could even fly into Birmingham Airport and walk over (border controls permitting). ------------- Merlin Rocket 3609 |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 8:59pm
Mark, we want the photo with the Ladies doing that (BTW the red headed one who you probably couldn't quite recognise was Clare (sorry to disappoint if you thought her smiles were flirting!). She's gone short haired. Matt
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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 9:57pm
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Mark, you'll have to post the pic of Alex Scoles OK.
I know you took at least one as I was stood drooling over the deck as you took it :) As for the aero, Martin reproduced the lift above with his wife, cue loads of RS guys hovering and lurching forward everytime the bow went up or down hehehe!!!! |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 03 Mar 14 at 10:35pm
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I'd vote for a return to Pickett's Lock. Despite the apparently similar location to Ally Pally, I seem to recall it is a lot easier to access by car. Just getting onto the North Circular after leaving Ally Pally always takes an age. We left early this year, but same old problem. Odd, as driving in at 09:30 was, as usual, a breeze. ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 04 Mar 14 at 9:13am
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Hi 2547
I live central south coast and it would still be as quick to NEC. Ally Pally is a Lovely building but I go to look at boats, bits etc not the building. I wasted about half an hour trying to find somewhere to park as the car parks were full and then due to an accident on the North Circular another hour and a half getting home( plus 40 minutes due to car problems) ------------- Gordon Lossc |
Posted By: scotsfinn
Date Posted: 04 Mar 14 at 9:36am
I don't have a beard! GP14..... ooooh too fast and new fangled for me ------------- Largs Sailing Club. D-Zero GBR 57, B14 744 www.blueseaconsultingllp.com |