The end of our dinghy park
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Topic: The end of our dinghy park
Posted By: gbrspratt
Subject: The end of our dinghy park
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 10:46am
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at the end of our dinghy park at Felixstowe we have a pile of old boats. I'm trying to identify them so the can be slung on eBay before i get to play chainsaws and skip them. Can anyone identify them? sorry the pictures are a rubbish......
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Posted By: themeaningoflife
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 10:53am
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I think the wooden one in pic 1078 is a firefly, and the white one with orange decks in 1073 and 74 seems to be a 420, but I may be wrong.
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Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 10:56am
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yes, sorry, i know the firefly, that's one to be removed. someone else has said 420 to so that looks promising. i also know of the wayfarer. just didn't separate the photos.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:01am
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Very difficult with covers on and without any dimensions to give much clue
1069 are probably Hobie 16 I think 1070/71 probably Enterprise 1073/4 makes me wonder about Europe, but hard to tell like that. If 11ft long and unstayed mast then probably... 1075 Wayfarer I think 1080/1/2 maybe a very old Phantom, but that's a big guess, I first wondered about Mirror 14/Marauder |
Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:08am
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Thanks i will be down there on saturday for a committee meeting so will try take some better pictures. with the two up on the bank (one orange) i tried turning over the right one, but apparently thats heavy!
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:29am
I agree that it's a Mirror 14 ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:45am
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1065 is a Swallow. Have we missed any? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:54am
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Still to get one: 1064/7/8.
Flare like a 505, transom a bit like a 505, but it seems to my eyes to be a bit short on elegance and maybe too narrow and maybe too small. |
Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:56am
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thanks rupert. cant find any pictures on google of a living swallow. any ideas on the white boat next to it laying upside down? has red insides but couldn't roll it right over on my own. the only other one is the other orange topsides boat, 420 has been mentioned?
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 11:59am
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I'd want to see the front half of the 1073/4. 420 interior is unmistakeable.
Tip for anyone else doing this, length is a big help, so if you can arm yourself with a tape measure, and preferably not the ebay elastic variety... |
Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:03pm
1076/7 is from ahead, but covered  ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:13pm
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Certainly looks like a 420 to me, but as Jim says, a tape measure or a pic with the cover off would soon confirm. Would need to see the white one right way up - forklift handy? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:14pm
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One boat to check for the white one would be a Fennec. Can't remember whether it has any flare off hand, but it has red insides. Nope, transom wrong. Odd thing is, it looks quite 70's french, but the transom looks rather modern. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:21pm
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Itdoeslook French, the Simoun has a transom like that, plus was often that colour I don't think it's a marauder I think it's a phantom ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:27pm
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The last blue is probably a marauder or mirror 16, without a trapeze fitted. I don't think it's a phantom as the hull at the transom is not flat enough plus (the marauder had a slight curve away from the centre as this one does) I can't see the chine towards the nose. There are also those strakes running along the underside which were on marauders but not phantoms generally. ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:31pm
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plus you can see that the inner gunwales are parallel which I remember was a feature of the marauder even though the outer ones were massively curved. ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 12:58pm
I used to sail one of those!! ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Dougaldog
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 2:35pm
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Almost certainly (as in, I'm certain) that the Blue boat is a Mirror 14 built from a Bell kit. Without knowing the dimensions (when is there never an ebay tape measure to hand when you want one) it is hard to tell what the white one is.... possibly a Duo OR - depending on the dimensions, a Wineglass. However, I'm thinking Duo as the Ferry was one of their popular locations way back when!
Dougal ------------- Dougal H |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 2:54pm
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The Swallow is 12 foot, so the white boat must be similar, so not a Wineglass. The Duo is a new one on me, Dougal - any info? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Alistair426
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 3:18pm
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The French-looking boat may be a 'Mowgli' if it's a bit small for a 420. I seem to remember drooling over one at the Boat Show back in the very early 70s!
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 6:26pm
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Unless they changed the Mowgli's transom (which was unscooped), then I don't think it is that.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 7:48pm
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If the mirror14 / marauder has sails then i could be interested in having them off you. ------------- Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980. |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 8:26pm
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I have almost everything for a marauder, times two. I scrapped two rotten hulls so have all the rest of the kit. The white Marauder sails were sold two years ago, but still not collected. I do have some red M14 sails though. Plus booms, masts, rudders etc.... ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 8:31pm
Assuming their main priority is to clear rhe dinghy park an offer to take the rags and leave the boat may not be their ideal option... |
Posted By: Kev M
Date Posted: 15 Jan 14 at 10:34pm
Alternatively the option to burn the boat and collect some beer tokens may be preferable to burning the lot. Winging it, i'll send you a message about the parts tomorrow. Don't suppose you're going to the Steve Nicholson are you? ------------- Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980. |
Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 10:41am
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wineglass..... one of the old boys said something about a wineglass down there.... i didn't know what he was talking about. presumed it was past his bedtime or something..... i think the owner of the mirror 14 has now been named, just need to located. the wooden firefly is not wanted anymore, owner wants rid. is there and point in advertising the rest? maybe the enerprise, as that is almost complete, just no sails.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 11:25am
People seem to buy stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole, doubly so if there's a road trailer involved... |
Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 11:36am
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no road trails. what you see is what you get. ent has trolly. and 420??/ orange thing thanks to everyone thats helped! ------------- |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 11:41am
Ditto,
It's got to be worth a 99p (no insertion fee) listing on ebay for each of them.
Re the Firefly; whether or not the hull is sound, if it still has the original fittings on may be of interest to CVDRA members. May even have original steel centerplate or newer alloy n it which could have some value.
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Posted By: gbrspratt
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 11:46am
i did join the forum with intentions to ask for help(took a couple of days to join), but a few of you seem to have popped up here. ill find out about the firefly, it was used at the nationals here 2 years ago? but has been left sitting and believe the hull is rotten, but everything else is good. ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 12:08pm
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Worth selling stuff just to get someone else to take it away. Oddly, it seems easier to sell stuff for a few quid than to give it away. A matter of more people seeing the ad, I suppose. Fireflies are pretty easy to mend, so it may well be that you'll get a buyer fairly easily. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 2:09pm
| The other thing about listing orphaned/abandoned boats / bits on ebay is that it is transparent. If the 'owner' ever shows up wanting to know what became of their 'pride and joy', then it can be demonstrated that the method of disposal yeilded the best market value (less any expenses), and that their 'pride and joy' wasn't just gifted to someone for a drink (although sometimes that's all they are worth). |
Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 3:37pm
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Hi All
We have a feva in our compound unpaid for, unused for two years which we are about to add to our training fleet. Having done all the normal stuff to try and find the owner. Crazy how some people just abandon things. ------------- Gordon Lossc |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 3:39pm
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Someone has just this morning tried to give me an old 420, but I turned it down. Old boats are often more work than they are worth. Yes I am going to the Steve Nicks Kev! ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 3:42pm
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Not often that anything as useful to a club as a Feva gets abandoned - as Winging it says, most often it is the crap stuff that would involve constant work.
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: RichTea
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 7:39pm
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We had a pico which the board decided the club should inherit and not 'disposed' of. ------------- RS200 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 16 Jan 14 at 7:46pm
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ooh, a pico is worth having! strangely populatr amongst beginners.
------------- the same, but different... |