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Topic: the bart project
Posted By: rogerd
Subject: the bart project
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:29pm
Anyone else seen this. Good idea

http://www.thebartproject.com/press/Launch.pdf



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Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:32pm
Yep, it's doing the rounds on FB.
Hoping to put it into our calendar

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Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:47pm
Just seen it on Y&Y front page - interesting idea and, of course, a worthy cause.




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What could possibly go wrong?


Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:47pm
I have already emailed our sailing sec and commodore(I hate that title) and suggested its something we should do


Posted By: iitick
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:57pm
I will do the same.


Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 1:58pm
Not that it matters, but it'll be interesting to see how they work the results out.  Comparing different venues with different tides/wind strengths/waves is going to be tricky, although it will keep this forum going for months!

How about a separate thread to debate this, with each post costing say 50p and all proceeds to Bart's charity?  I can think of a few candidates who will be bankrupt within days!



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What could possibly go wrong?


Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by Dougal

Not that it matters,

that's exactly the attitude I'll have with it.   If anyone is looking for some meaning in a results sheet, then I think they'll be missing the point.  

I'm in. 


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by rogerd

commodore(I hate that title)


Hey, mind your manners sunshine, us Commodores might just consider a little keel hauling to restore respect to the title.

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Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 7:14pm
When I was chair of the committee I referred to my self as chair of the committee. All this pompous naval gazing is a load of boll*cks.
I should have proposed banning it then.

Back on subject it seems our club may have an event booked already which would be difficult to bring into the spirit of this event so I will be looking to sail at another club or sail with someone else somewhere.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by Dougal

Not that it matters, but it'll be interesting to see how they work the results out.


Simple enough. You normalise all corrected times against a standard and convert.

Probably as good as any is to use the old PY "poor performers" algorithm to exclude the bottom end of the fleet - novices and capsizers - then average all the other corrected times. Then convert each boat's individual corrected time to a percentage of the average corrected time. Put all the results together and the crew with the lowest figure wins.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 7:57pm
Won't the place with the most wind produce the winner? Assuming it isn't getting blown flat weather.

But, as Dougal says, that really isn't the point, and I hope our club and loads of others join in with this.


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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Won't the place with the most wind produce the winner?
No, because your score is your percentage of the average corrected time in your race, not in every race.


Posted By: RichTea
Date Posted: 17 Dec 13 at 9:05pm
It's in the centre diary, not sure about the sea club. There is a cat open that weekend, so probably not.

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Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 18 Dec 13 at 6:45am
Originally posted by rogerd

When I was chair of the committee I referred to my self as chair of the committee. All this pompous naval gazing is a load of boll*cks.
I should have proposed banning it then.

Back on subject it seems our club may have an event booked already which would be difficult to bring into the spirit of this event so I will be looking to sail at another club or sail with someone else somewhere.
Roger if enough of us want to sail it we'll find a way. We're in. 
Now to twist the sailing secretary's arm as even the Gilmer interclub match could accommodate this one race as part of the event.
 
And you might have been the chair but you did a good job as commode.Smile


Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 20 Dec 13 at 3:45pm
I didn't bother going through any form of 'commodore' ... Just registered us and told the club: "We're doing this" Big smile
 
Already up on our faffbook and website Clap


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Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 20 Dec 13 at 4:01pm
Pat I am thinking of doing it elsewhere as I may be back in a Hornet next year. Not exactly the boat for Shearwater


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 Dec 13 at 4:05pm
Just been reading about the Bart logo contest - is the obvious drawing style for it out of bounds for legal reasons, do you think?

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Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 20 Dec 13 at 4:11pm
Nice idea give it a try who knows they may like being associated with such a great man



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