BBC: Hayling Island Hit By Tornado
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Topic: BBC: Hayling Island Hit By Tornado
Posted By: Jeepers
Subject: BBC: Hayling Island Hit By Tornado
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 10:19pm
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"About 100 homes have been damaged by a "tornado" on Hayling Island in Hampshire, police have said."
But the Tornado was on starboard and the protest has been ruled "frivolous" |
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Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 10:37pm
| I don't think it was very funny for those hit ... |
Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 10:49pm
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I agree, I shouldn't think it was.
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 10:52pm
| Made a mess of the Army boat park on nearby Thorney Island. Never seen anything like it - not even the 1987 storm. A stratos literally thrown around! But very very localised. |
Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 11:00pm
| The 87 storm..yes..I remember driving to the club after work, around all the trees lying in the road, to find my Fireball nestled amongst the lower branches of a sizeable tree. |
Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 20 Oct 13 at 11:15pm
I think I'll get in touch about salvaging some good parts for our (RAF) L2Ks before they scrap them and get them replaced*. Shame as they're building a good centre at TISC.... shame us light blue types never had the budget to give it what it deserves... 
* Damn those pongo types and their massive AT budgets.... ------------- |
Posted By: Telltale
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 12:17am
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Old research, (about 10 years ago), says the UK gets 100 tornados a year, but small about 20-50 m wide. Thats 5 times as many as in USA. Difference is the ones in the states are 800m plus wide ! Bootscooter, haven't the RAF got their own personal tornados?
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 6:49am
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last year (didn't do it this year) we saw a waterspout near Brighlingsea whilst doing the Colne Point race (ECPR weekend). That was a bit... worrying. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: marky
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 7:16am
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Mengeham Rythe Sailing Club got hit pretty hard as well. Quite a few cruisers and dinghies badly damaged with about £100k worth of damage caused.
http://www.sailweb.co.uk/news/13864/hayling-tornado-causes-£100000-damage-at-sailing-club" rel="nofollow - http://www.sailweb.co.uk/news/13864/hayling-tornado-causes-£100000-damage-at-sailing-club
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 7:22am
Not sure they'll be that much - we'll know today. Just picked up and dropped, not flung around lots.
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 8:03am
my uncle works for ba peters in Chichester marina and in 87 he said that several yots went missing never to be seen again. is living in Portsmouth at the time and there were yots on roads and traffic lights bent at 45 degrees to where they should have been. as for the trees on the green, mostly laying down and Portsmouth got off lightly compared to further east, so I think that a stratos being chucked around is fairly small beer in comparison even though they do weigh a ton ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 9:12am
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Major damage at Mengeham Rythe SC. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/hayling-tornado-100-00-damage-at-sailing-club-1-5606279 (Oh, I see link already posted but you can't delete posts).  |
Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 9:18am
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From http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/99985-tornado-incl-waterspout-hayling-island-201013-rfmi/ has an apparent track (that annoyingly wont's post as a image here. http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=25072 |
Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 9:51am
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You need to look pretty carefully to decide if that pic is from yesterday or 1987, blueboy! In the end it was only the yellow fluorescent jacket that swung it for me (probably orange in '87) - the boats could have been 26 years earlier! (Or is that a Hartley Wayfarer in the background on the right - the blue decked one was maybe new in '87!) ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 10:31am
------------- Steve B RS300 411 https://www.facebook.com/groups/55859303803" rel="nofollow - RS300 page |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:17am
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I was in Portsmouth for the 87 storm, I slept through it. Saturday night's woke me up though, amazing force of rain on the windows.
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:23am
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I slept through it too even though someone's shed flew past and the gable end of the next door house fell down too ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:23am
I walked home in the 87 storm through the Odd Stiene in Brighton at about 3am (somewhat worse for wear) and didn't really notice the storm; thought it a bit windy ... when I went through the park the next day I could not believe I had got away with it ... carnage ...
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:27am
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I was in Aberystwyth in 1987, so just got a normal day - wet and windy!
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:50am
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87 - we'd borrowed the in-laws yacht the weekend before. It went walkabout from Itchenor. Uh-oh. Thankfully, I had moored it up correctly - cause was the seriously chunky mooring line shackle giving out - burnt through as if by a laser-cutter ------------- http://clubsailor.co.uk/wp/club-sailor-from-back-to-front/" rel="nofollow - Great book for Club Sailors here |
Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:57am
 I didn't have a boat at the time but this is what we woke up to in E Sussex. I was supposed to drive to Oxfordshire for my Grandfathers funeral, no chance. I couldn't even drive across town. The chap with the spitfire was gutted.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 12:15pm
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I remember taking my late lamented CB400F through the woods at one point on the way to work because there were fewer trees down in there than there were across the road.
There's obviously no comparison between the energy in a major storm like that than in a little tornado, even though the very localised effects of the tornado can be just as bad in that very small area... |
Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 5:06pm
I feel so sorry for the owners of the boats. I went through this in '87 when we had an enormous amount of damages to the boats at Bosham SC. For me it's heart-breaking to see boats damaged, especially when it's down to the elements. Lots of boat written off and many more with some serious repair work required. Amazingly it missed HISC (1400 Metres away) and our base (1900 Metres away in the other direction). Good luck to all of those who suffered losses with insurance, repairs etc.
 ------------- Rodney Cobb Suntouched Sailboats Limited http://www.suntouched.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.suntouched.co.uk [EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk |
Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 5:08pm
OH! The pictures are of Mengeham Rythe SC Yesterday  ------------- Rodney Cobb Suntouched Sailboats Limited http://www.suntouched.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.suntouched.co.uk [EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 5:31pm
| Nobles will be busy ... |
Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 5:41pm
And Ian Porter One of the best boat repairers on the South Coast!------------- Rodney Cobb Suntouched Sailboats Limited http://www.suntouched.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.suntouched.co.uk [EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk |
Posted By: marky
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 6:19pm
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Yup not great for MRSC. Most of the boats were tied down as well....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddm0OtIz9_I&feature=share" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddm0OtIz9_I&feature=share
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 8:54pm
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that tree came off second best to the Finns ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Mister Nick
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 9:18pm
EURGH! That was painful to watch, must be a total nightmare for the owners. Hope everyone gets their damage sorted without too much cost or trouble!!
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Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 9:48pm
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87 - we got married the day after down south. They were nailing the roof back on our hotel. ------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 21 Oct 13 at 11:59pm
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To be clear - I was inland in 1987. The damage there was very different. Boats were consistently pushed and shoved around by sustained high gusts in 87. This tornado picked them up and put them down again. A 400 was thrown from its trolley in to a vision. The trolley is where it was. There is no mark in the soft ground between the boats (3 or 4 m). There is every indication that the 400 caused the vision to capsize when it hit its rig gunnel at somewhere around gooseneck height and then landed on the mast and shrouds just below the spreaders. Elsewhere a shroud on the stratos has literally cut through the rudder tower and transom on a 2K - that takes kinetic energy not just mass. Yet the windsurfers leaning on the shed with just the bows tucked under a retainer remain where they were. Extraoedinary.
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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 7:02am
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Here is CCTV footage of the Tornado. What club is it from? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/hayling-tornado-images-of-twister-caught-on-cctv-1-5608549" rel="nofollow - http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/hayling-tornado-images-of-twister-caught-on-cctv-1-5608549 It really does show the power of the wind!
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Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 11:34am
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^ THE moment a tornado ripped through a sailing club has been captured on camera. The 60mph twister scooped up boats and bent trees double as it powered through Menegham Rythe Sailing Club, Hayling Island, for 30 seconds on Sunday morning |
Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 10:01am
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Have a look at the Topper at Chichester report for a walk round of the mess left at Mengham Rythe sc.
Anybody doubt you should tie your boat down. ------------- Gordon Lossc |
Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 11:24am
Most of the boats at MRSC were, in fact, tied down. The row of Finns that was devastated were all tied down so I am guessing that the forces were so strong that they pulled out all of the anchor points for the tie down chain. MRSC has a tie down policy like most clubs' dinghy parks. ------------- Rodney Cobb Suntouched Sailboats Limited http://www.suntouched.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.suntouched.co.uk [EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 11:37am
That is quite some storm to be able to lift Finns
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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 3:07pm
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Even many of the cruisers which had been lifted for the winter were removed from and replaced on their trailers by the twister! ------------- Rodney Cobb Suntouched Sailboats Limited http://www.suntouched.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.suntouched.co.uk [EMAIL=rodney@suntouched.co.uk">rodney@suntouched.co.uk |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 23 Oct 13 at 3:22pm
Well that's fairly normal for big breeze, but blowing Finns around... that's almost unprecedented... |
Posted By: solentgal
Date Posted: 08 Nov 13 at 4:39pm
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I was "asleep" (not) aboard a Tricorn 16 ft weekender just off Thorney Island SC slip during the Fastnet gale which sadly ended in disaster (1979? 80?)....... I could see a Heavenly Twins Cat out of the hatchway, silhouetted against the sky in the dark, going airborne as I clung in desperation to a life jacket (not realising that my crew was hanging on to the other side of it).....we made it through the night, but so ill! Slept thru the '87 one safely behind bricks and mortar in Southsea, and listened to the morning of the H.I. tornado from the safety of home in nearby Havant.....and then found out it tracked past 2 properties I owned on H.I. recently before hitting MRSC where I was intending joining and storing my classic I. Moth..........Overall I think I am lucky with weather then! ------------- Sami |