Endeavour Trophy
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Endeavour Trophy
Posted By: L123456
Subject: Endeavour Trophy
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:25am
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Runners and Riders .... Forecasts: 1st - Merlin 2nd - Fireball 3rd - RS200 Your forecasts?
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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:26am
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Good intereview with Nick Craig at http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/172467/Interview-with-Nick-Craig" rel="nofollow - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/172467/Interview-with-Nick-Craig We'll be posting all the news from the racing  |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:34am
I'd go Solo in 3rd and RS200 in 4th....
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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:47am
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None of these guys racing this year ... On his closest Endeavour rivals? There have been many all with very different sailing styles, which is what makes it so interesting. I think Jim Hunt, Geoff Carveth and Roger Gilbert have been the most consistent performers over the years with James Peters and Ben Saxton hugely impressive over the last few years. |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:50am
| 9 entries from the RS stable (I assume the Vareo and Feva are still RS boats) perhaps LDC will be sponsoring next year ;-) |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 11:59am
Only 1 Rs100 class though.  ------------- |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:02pm
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Most worrying aspect is that Mr Chandler doesn't appear to have a crew, please do not let it be the demo donkey. We'll never hear the end of it... ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:09pm
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No Mate, given that i was his crew for a number of years i thought it was a given. Alas even at my now spritely weight of 85kg I am apparently too heavy to be his crew.Its all rather hurtfull if truth be told. When you are as handsome as I, rejection is not something yo become accustomed too. I am not bitter, i just hope he loses by a significant margin. W4nk3r ------------- |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:09pm
on a serious note, how does it work for single handers? The crew listed doesn't appear in the results of the nationals, so no idea what connection he has to the RS100 class(es). Do you have to have a crew from the same class even?
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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:13pm
As i understand it its down to the helm. I know Steve Bolland used a mate from his club the last few times he raced. I agree james it should be another member of the fleet. That would of given me an even greater chance of going.
Been through thick and thin with Chandler, you would of thought he would of dusted his old crew off, but no he is just going to try and find someone better. The worse thing is he isnt even being two faced about it. He just said i was too fat. I am the lightest and fitest i have been for years. I wish he had of just called one of my children ugly. That would of hurtless.  ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:14pm
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I believe they are thinking of cloning Toby Lewis and having one of him for each boat, to make it fair...
------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Clive Evans
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:23pm
Crew doesn't need to have any connection to the class, in 2007 I crewed in the endeavour representing the supernova class and, at that time, hadn't even raced one! The helm had though  ------------- Spiral 816 |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:40pm
yes he should have softened it up a bit mate, maybe having then 'got his wires crossed' and bumped you last minute... Be thankful for small mercies, at least he said it was a fat and not 'fat and talent' issue. Plus the D-One's still trying to shake off the ugly tag, so your vinegar stroke face on the front of Y&Y wasn't going to do the class much good if the cameraman caught you in a rare hiking moment.
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Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:40pm
 I wonder if it the real RS100 national champion or the subsidiary one? |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:45pm
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 07 Oct 13 at 12:57pm
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also look who is representing the streaker class...
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: 2547
Date Posted: 11 Oct 13 at 10:54pm
| Weather look interesting ... |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 10:07am
| it's blowing its tits off tomorrow.... Russ will be smiling at Charlie's pain. |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 3:14pm
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Not sure it is now Jimbo, but I did send a sarky txt last night. The sailracer live stream is nothing but useless,the results are all over the place. Real lying on tweets to keep updated is this really the best the dinghy sailing world has to offer? ------------- |
Posted By: sandgrounder
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 4:44pm
? The results have been online for hours at the event website:_
http://royalcorinthian.co.uk/result/2013-11-709-0/" rel="nofollow - http://royalcorinthian.co.uk/result/2013-11-709-0/
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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 5:46pm
My forecast is currently in 1,3,4. Craig is walking it.
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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 7:41pm
Yeah I found that in the end, sailracer live streaming was still dog muck! ------------- |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 12 Oct 13 at 7:45pm
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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 13 Oct 13 at 4:45pm
| That looks the easiest win ever. Counting straight bullets. Has that ever happened before at this event? |
Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 13 Oct 13 at 6:57pm
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How do they choose which classes get invited? Anyone know? ------------- What could possibly go wrong? |
Posted By: ChrisJ
Date Posted: 13 Oct 13 at 7:20pm
| Knowing Nick C, he will have all the settings written down and recorded for the boat, depending on wind strengths, from the last few events. While others would have been learning the boat and sorting out how to sail it, Nick would have been practising... |
Posted By: Clive Evans
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 11:23am
My understanding is that the club has to work hard on this. Of course sometimes (particularly with Nick Craig) someone wins two nationals or more and picks which class to represent meaning the other class(es) don't get an entry. Then classes with reasonable nationals entries 30+ are written to and invited. Sometimes classes pay the entry fee if their champion wants to sail (quite a few champions decline the invite). If the early replies suggest no enterprise, no rs400, no contender etc then other classes get the call Of course I'm not a rcyc member so I don't know for sure but that's my understanding from sailing it in 07 They always aim for 25-28 entries which is what topper provide in terms of boats but results show sometimes not every entry is taken up I personally think it's a great event and if I get the chance again I'm there :) ------------- Spiral 816 |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 11:27am
| I also think it's great that Topper and the RCYC still make this possible. Well done to all involved and those who sailed. Anyone who has sailed out of Burnham in windy weather will tell you it's quite a challenging location with gusts, shifts and tidal eddys to contend with. To get 7 wins across the series really is something pretty damn special imnsho. |
Posted By: Clive Evans
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 11:47am
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Yep I have to admit it whilst the xenon is an absolute dog to sail the concept of topper providing equally matched porta-loos which no-one races regularly is fantastic for the event and should be commended for ther intentions Having to find a bandit quick ent or rs400 and then having to beat their national champion in his/her own class would have been a challenge in the old days! ------------- Spiral 816 |
Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 12:12pm
Makes sense. Thanks. ------------- What could possibly go wrong? |
Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 12:25pm
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What two classes has Nick one this year then? i thought he only won the Merlins? Did he Win the 4's as well? He was very close to taking the D-One title, but got pipped by young Charlie Chandler. ------------- |
Posted By: Clive Evans
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 12:34pm
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In the past nick has won enterprise, ok and rs400 in the same season, I live in Australia at the moment so I'm a bit out of touch with the uk scene I think Ruscoe I right though 'just' the merlin this year! ------------- Spiral 816 |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 12:52pm
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D One Gold Cup. A pretty tough field too.
------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 1:28pm
Not a Nats, though, so not counting for this. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 2:21pm
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Next year I'd like the Endeavour Trophy to consist of a series of races to decide a top 2, where upon they get into the foiling C-Class cats from the "Little AC" and go for it, in a series of "best of 10" races, you can keep coverage of the first bit to some written blurb with a few photo's online, but the second bit should be filmed and streamed online at least. ... pointless having all this sailing talent around and never showing it off.
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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 5:05pm
| was that you doing pretty darn well for the 100s Getafix? |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 14 Oct 13 at 5:24pm
| I think the C owners might have something to say about entrusting their precious charges! |