RS200 water inside
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Topic: RS200 water inside
Posted By: yannick
Subject: RS200 water inside
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 3:30pm
Hi everyone,
I'm posting from France (I'm french) so i hope you will foregive me for my poor English and spelling mistakes
I bought an RS200 last september in the uk because we don't find much in France. it's really a nice boat, and my boat handling is getting better and better (still some work to do to make her go fast )
two weeks ago in strong Wind we capsize after a gybe, and when i checked Inside the hull after sailing it was full of water (around 10 liters in the front and 5 liters in the back)
when we don't capzise the hull is dry every where.
I've checked every thing ans it seams to be tight and sealed. I Wonder if it can not come from the hatch (they sere closed and the seal on)
any idears?
regards
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: Riki @ RS
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 3:51pm
Bienvenu!
10 litres after one capsize is more than likely the foredeck hatch. Check seal and tight fitting before you try anything else
------------- Riki Hooker
Sales Director, RS Sailing
www.rssailing.com
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 5:32pm
Thank you riki for your fast repply.
I've checked the hatchs, they were close tight. The o ring was in but itīs old do you think I should change them? Also i wonder if it's a good idear if i remove the hatchs and refeat them with special silicon glue ( I don't know the word in english) and new pop rivet? What do you think?
As you work for Rs you may know nicolas honor the french rs dealer. I tried to call him but he may be in holiday
Know i'm scared to gybe, if i capsize 2 or 3 times and i get 30 litres of water..... 
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 5:54pm
The hatches leak on my 200. The front one leaked under the hull/hatch or lower part, I removed the rivets, re sealed it and re-riveted.
The rear hatch doesn't sit on the "O" ring very well and leaks very badly. I'm thinking of putting a different type of hatch cover on this one.
I did a pressure test with soapy water and found small leaks around some of the fitting screws as well. I took the screws out and re sealed them when dry with a good silicon sealer.
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by transient
The hatches leak on my 200. The front one leaked under the hull/hatch or lower part, I removed the rivets, re sealed it and re-riveted.
The rear hatch doesn't sit on the "O" ring very well and leaks very badly. I'm thinking of putting a different type of hatch cover on this one.
I did a pressure test with soapy water and found small leaks around some of the fitting screws as well. I took the screws out and re sealed them when dry with a good silicon sealer. |
Did you get already as much water sa me in one cpasize?
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 6:58pm
I would do a pressure test on the boat yannik......Put the end of a hose in the bung hole, seal around the hose with blu-tac or something. Blow gently into the hose while some one else brushes soapy water around the boat and look for the bubbles. Check the likely areas: Hatch covers, screws, shroud plates, centre board slot, fittings, where the hull joins the deck under the gunwhale......there are breather holes between the pintles on the transom, these are supposed to be there, don't block them up.
Only blow gently into the hose, two or three gentle lung fulls otherwise you could damage the hull.
By the way: the front compartment and the rear are connected, they are on mine anyway.
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 7:46pm
Thank you for your advise i'll do so next time. If it comes from the hatch i'll change them by better one.
Your two compartments are connected? Which number is your 200? Mine is 502 i've double checked and i. Quite sure they aren't. I'll check again 
Anyway it is realy a nice boat, it's a shame that we don' have much 200 in france (10 max in all france) nobody to race again  . In france it's the 500, 700 and 800 that is used most of the time
Thanks again for your help Yannick
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: jharvey
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 8:06pm
There is an article on the 200 website under the maintenance section about fixing leaks.
http://uk.rs200sailing.org/index.asp?selection=Coaching&Fleet=RS200&subsect=Maintenance
Unfortunately all the photos are missing from it though.
On ours one of the rivets holding the hatch cover in has failed and the rubber o-ring is starting to go under the hatch cover by it.
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Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by transient
......there are breather holes between the pintles on the transom, these are supposed to be there, don't block them up.
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Good advice, but it may help just whilst doing a pressure leak test to temporarily cover the breather holes with blue tac or similar.
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by yannick
Thank you for your advise i'll do so next time. If it comes from the hatch i'll change them by better one.
Your two compartments are connected? Which number is your 200? Mine is 502 i've double checked and i. Quite sure they aren't. I'll check again 
Anyway it is realy a nice boat, it's a shame that we don' have much 200 in france (10 max in all france) nobody to race again  . In france it's the 500, 700 and 800 that is used most of the time
Thanks again for your help Yannick |
If I pour water in the front it comes out the back which makes sense. The connection is right at the bottom of the wooden bulkhead, a slight gap (5mm approx) either side of the upright that supports the mast step. My boat number is 1066.
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Posted By: Sheetpuller
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 10:11pm
Originally posted by transient
Originally posted by yannick
Thank you for your advise i'll do so next time. If it comes from the hatch i'll change them by better one.
Your two compartments are connected? Which number is your 200? Mine is 502 i've double checked and i. Quite sure they aren't. I'll check again 
Anyway it is realy a nice boat, it's a shame that we don' have much 200 in france (10 max in all france) nobody to race again  . In france it's the 500, 700 and 800 that is used most of the time
Thanks again for your help Yannick |
If I pour water in the front it comes out the back which makes sense. The connection is right at the bottom of the wooden bulkhead, a slight gap (5mm approx) either side of the upright that supports the mast step. My boat number is 1066. |
NEVER tell a Frenchman that your sail number is 1066! They immediately become all smug and superior! 
------------- I'm not arguing. I'm explaining why I'm right.
Merlin Rocket 3545 - 'Smooth Operator'
Sprint 15 1342 - 'Still Crazy'
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 20 Aug 13 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Sheetpuller
Originally posted by transient
Originally posted by yannick
Thank you for your advise i'll do so next time. If it comes from the hatch i'll change them by better one.
Your two compartments are connected? Which number is your 200? Mine is 502 i've double checked and i. Quite sure they aren't. I'll check again 
Anyway it is realy a nice boat, it's a shame that we don' have much 200 in france (10 max in all france) nobody to race again  . In france it's the 500, 700 and 800 that is used most of the time
Thanks again for your help Yannick |
If I pour water in the front it comes out the back which makes sense. The connection is right at the bottom of the wooden bulkhead, a slight gap (5mm approx) either side of the upright that supports the mast step. My boat number is 1066. |
NEVER tell a Frenchman that your sail number is 1066! They immediately become all smug and superior! 
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...and as it happens I am based in Hastings.
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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 21 Aug 13 at 12:56pm
My money is on the screws holding the grab rails on....
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 21 Aug 13 at 3:39pm
thank you for your advices, i'll check all that this week end
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 09 Apr 14 at 12:29pm
Here are some news about my 200
I've removed all my hatchs, sealed and popped with new rivets,and fitted new seals.
I made a pressure test, it is now 100% waterproof.
thanks again to all of you.
the boat is now for sale and a nice 500 is in my garden
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 12 Apr 14 at 12:15am
How come the sale, did you get fed up with it?
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Posted By: yannick
Date Posted: 14 Apr 14 at 4:10pm
No, it's just because there are not much 200 in France and more 500 to race with
if i could i would keep both
------------- rs200 502
ycc carnac
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Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 14 Apr 14 at 4:41pm
Posted By: pondscum
Date Posted: 15 Apr 14 at 7:22pm
There was a bad batch of 200 hulls from Brazil which were all replaced. I think mine was the last one after several years - in the 1290 series.
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