Ebay bargain - rather unusal
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Topic: Ebay bargain - rather unusal
Posted By: MerlinMags
Subject: Ebay bargain - rather unusal
Date Posted: 21 Jul 13 at 1:18pm
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I've not heard of a 'Sea Bat' before...have you? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190873330497&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160" rel="nofollow - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190873330497&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160 |
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 21 Jul 13 at 4:17pm
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Spooky, round someone's house the other day and they had one in their garden. They didn't know what is was and neither did I. At last I know. Different one though unless they shipped it to the other side of the country ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Times 10
Date Posted: 21 Jul 13 at 5:43pm
| Sea Bat built by Sailskiff Sportscraft, 72sqft sail area, 3.5m long, apparently it sailed to a py of 112 in its day. There was a larger version of this Sailing surfboard or skimmer, known as a Beachcomber, which was 3.96m long and had a py of 110. |
Posted By: Dougaldog
Date Posted: 21 Jul 13 at 6:02pm
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Mags..... you'll have to look back through the old issues but I did do a piece on all of these boats! You had the Piccolo, Bonito (from Pearsons who were also making Contenders at the same time - badly!) Sea Bat, Beachcomber, Man of War and a whole host more. Then there was the Minisail (brought back from the dead by forumite Rupert) which for a while was Europe's fastest growing class. People talk of the fragmentation of classes in the sport today but if you go back into the past, things could have actually been worse rather than better. Some of the boats were pretty grim, others were quite good but in the grand scale of things it mattered not, for when the Laser came along, the writing was very much on the wall. Y&Y scribe Jack Knights was a leading supporter of the Laser and the magazine was full of column inches on how good the new boat was. Within two seasons the beat boat genre was about as popular as fax machines and telex..... you just didn't see them any more. Also caught out as collateral damage - the ToY (which had an active European circuit) - the Harrier (popular at Elton and other northern clubs) and Peter Milnes's classy 'HIT' dinghy. Today these are history BUT...it would be wrong to think that they were all boats better suited to Crufts - in their day some of these were clever and innovative designs. but then again, so was the Ford Anglia!
D ------------- Dougal H |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 21 Jul 13 at 6:26pm
One of our cvrda members has a seabat, I think there is a blog on how he restored it and sails it. And of course I have a ToY, though I haven't sailed it yet.  ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 22 Jul 13 at 11:07am
| Doesnt Nigel have a beachcomber. If fact somewhere in favourite photos there are some pics of him sailing it in a blow. |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 19 Aug 13 at 2:52pm
I've had an even better bargain now - several free sails. These are even less well-known than the Sea Bat though.
First one is a Vitress I am told. But the bird insignia is even confounding the CVRDA! Nobody can remember the name. |
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 19 Aug 13 at 2:55pm
That sails from one of my old pirate galleons!  ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 24 Jul 14 at 11:28am
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Now ebay has something else I've not seen before.
A 'pointy Mirror', the seller says. 
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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 24 Jul 14 at 12:00pm
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Jack Holt Vagabond?
http://www.jackholtvagabond.co.uk/JackHoltVagabond/Home.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.jackholtvagabond.co.uk/JackHoltVagabond/Home.html ------------- http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilsonian SC http://www.3000class.org.uk" rel="nofollow - 3000 Class |
Posted By: Dougaldog
Date Posted: 24 Jul 14 at 3:59pm
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Mags, The Vagabond - one of Jack Holt's later designs. The size and layout were all carefully worked at so as to make the optimum use of 8.4 sheets of ply. The original commission for the boat was French.
For the Holt Centenary in 2012 one owner rebuilt a Vagabond and made a very nice job of the restoration. Sadly though, the UK market in this area of boat size was already very crowded - Proctor's Gull, Holt's Heron, the Mirror....Mermaids and many more. The other big hit against the Vagabond was the end of the home build era....though, if my memory still serves me well, the plans for the vagabond still exist! Dougal ------------- Dougal H |
Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 24 Jul 14 at 5:35pm
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There's a HIT at my club..... Never seen it on the water or even with the cover off. Not sure that it's even moved in the 5 years I've been there. Beige colour, number 5 I think. ------------- Lightning368 'All the Gear' (409), Lightning368 'Sprite' (101), Laser (big number) 'Yellow Jack', RS Vareo (432)'The Golden Rays' |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 24 Jul 14 at 7:47pm
| Yes, I remember a friend's Dad had one back in the 50s. Always likes the distinctively orange/tan sail. |
Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 25 Jul 14 at 2:22pm
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Nick Cottle brought his Vagabond down to Wraysbury for the Holt centennial. His girlfirend was not impressed as it rained hard all the way down from Yorkshire and Nick had put the sails in the car and the camping gear in the boat. We spent some time drying out sleepingbags and tents for Magda and the children. Nice one Nick get the priorities right, keep the sails dry  .Pretty little boat very well restored.
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