What about the Committee Boat Team?
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Topic: What about the Committee Boat Team?
Posted By: transient
Subject: What about the Committee Boat Team?
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 11:54am
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They only get mentioned briefly in the Winners speech and then not by name..... ...."I'd like to thank the caterers, the other competitors, the race officials and those on the safety boats.......blah blah" It used to be the crew that didn't exist, thankfully they now get a mention in the results......Should the Race Officer and Com boat team get mentioned by name in the write ups. Or is it a question of where does it stop? |
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Posted By: tick
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 11:58am
| In the speech given by the 13 year old Oppie sailor who won our round of our county youth sailing event....he thanked his sponsors! |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 12:00pm
 ... and the company who supplies his parents RIB? ------------- |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 12:05pm
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I got lovely mentions this weekend from the British Moths and Lightnings for running their Opens at Whitefriars. The rest of the team also got mentions, but because they are more behind the scenes, it is difficult to pick up the names as a competitor, when busy packing the boat away, getting changed etc when the prize giving is being hurried along as people have a long way to travel? My race team on Sunday, and Alsitair's (the OOD on Saturday, when I was racing the Lightning) on Sat were wonderful. I doubt they would be worried about whether their names were used in the thank yous - but the food they served, the jobs they did as rescue, the help they provided on and off the water, were certainly praised. I did the write-ups for the event, and did't really feel that readers would be that interested in the name of a club member, just as I don't think they are really interested in anything more than a very brief highlight of a particular race, but the fact the food was excellent gives a flavour of what the atmosphere at the club was like. ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: tick
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 12:11pm
| Seems that the weather tested the rescue teams as well and well done Team Whealan. |
Posted By: transient
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 1:10pm
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I got lovely mentions this weekend from the British Moths and Lightnings for running their Opens at Whitefriars. The rest of the team also got mentions, You clearly did a great job.....exception rather than the rule though in my experience. but because they are more behind the scenes, it is difficult to pick up the names as a competitor, If the names were put on the NOR? I doubt they would be worried about whether their names were used in the thank yous This raises a couple of interesting points (to me anyway). There is an opinion that considers in order to run an open event it's increasingly more likely that a RYA Qualification will be required. The raises the bar as regards to professionalism/standards, not to mention the ammount of work put in.....surely reputation is important, reputation can't be accrued unless folk know who you are. Another issue: I help out with adult training RYA 1 & 2. Last week one of the regular instructors suggested that if your doing it for thanks or glory then don't bother. I'm not quite sure what he meant by glory but when I do something on a voluntary basis I want a "thank you", the absence of a thanks probably wouldn't stop me doing it but it would be nice, not least, it's good manners.....Having said that, I know the SI will say thanks because he's a nice person, as is our Commodore who is very free with praise. I think this last point indicates what us Brits think of "Duty" (James mentioned this in a thread yesterday I think). Duty is considered by many something that should be done, an onerous task that is done for it's own sake with little or no thanks......Why do some folk drag their feet when given "duties"? possibly because there isn't much thanks involved. I did the write-ups for the event, and did't really feel that readers would be that interested Bunch of ingrates aint they  I suppose in your case it would have seemed like self promotion, fair enough. In general though I suspect many race officials would appreciate it. It would be them we're doing it for not the oiks in the boats.I can think of no logical reason why wider acknowledgement can't be given to race officials but I can think of many cultural and habitual reasons. ..........most of us have private dental care, we pay for the privilege of having pain inflicted. I bet we all still say "'ank 'ou" as we walk out the door  |
Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 3:50pm
hmm, a pulling teeth analogy.... I must try to avoid negative mental images when sitting fat and slow on those marginal wind reaches. 'duty'... it's an inherited word, to an outsider it sounds weird and archaic. I remember trying to explain the concept to my wife when the 'duty roster' came out in the post telling her I wouldn't be spending Easter Monday with the family... with the renewal letter at the same time... for four hundred quid. But to return to topic, yes, I do think when there are less folks capable of running racing, then it would be a little short sighted not to
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Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 3:50pm
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I see some clubs charging as much as they can get away with and not being infinitely polite or helpful to the paying competitors. It's a two way street. Other clubs really do treat you as a guest, then it's easier to be sincere when thanking them. Also the winners carting off the prizes could sometimes show a little more appreciation for the mere mortals who provide critical mass for stuff to happen, and pay for the bulk of it. Most events that collapse don't lack winners or organises, just 'grass roots' support.
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Posted By: Dougaldog
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 4:26pm
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This is a tricky one, for if you name one, then you really ought to name all - and if it has been a biggish event then that can be a long and fraught task, for you might just miss one person out! However, as a busy PRO, it is nice when you get the thanks of the Class you've just hosted! Normal practice also dictates that you get a small token of appreciation, strong alcohol for the frayed nerves being a popular choice of 'thank you' (BUT...not the RS Teras.... they presented me with a wonderful maxi sized Black Flag - for not BFD-ing one of them over the whole weekend - what a great fleet they are, a pleasure to 'officiate' for).
So, when I go up to get the thanks of the fleet, I take the opportunity to thank the 'team' as an entity, which in the rules it is. Committee boat crew, rescue boats, shore party, Protest Jury - they are all part of the 'Race Team' without which the event just doesn't happen. I then ask everyone there to join me in giving them a big round of applause. That way, I get to thank them too, for the truth is, any PRO is only as good as the people he has helping him.
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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 4:45pm
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I think from a practical level there has to be some generalisation. I am pretty sure the host club is aware of the level of gratitude from a fleet long before a report hits the wire. No event would run without the great efforts of many willing helpers; last open I organised I counted 29 people had given some time for free to help. Those 29 didn't expect a mention is dispatches but I made sure all were well thanked and passed on the thanks from the sailors who contacted me after the event.
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 04 Jun 13 at 10:50pm
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How do you find out the names? When you've won you ask someone, preferably before you start your speech. Simples...... Obviously as part of the pathway to winning you have actually built rapport with the PRO before that...it often helps you to avoid calling him a d**k if you know that his name is actually Ted. (any resemblance to Race Officers past or present who may or may not have BFD's me is purely coincidental).
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Posted By: SoggyBadger
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 6:37am
But what do you do if his name really is Dick?  ------------- Best wishes from deep in the woods SB |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 7:57am
Then you have no problem!
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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 8:22am
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Guys, how can someone who has turned up after driving 50+ miles, rigged, gone sailing, come in, had lunch, gone sailing, come in packed up and got ready to go home at a reasonable time before his pass out expires seriously be expected to find out, and remember, the names of everyone who helped run the event?
The PRO will introduce himself at the briefing at the start he may or may not introduce his helpers. Of course the report writer may be able to find out everyone's name, but I bet for a typical club event there are around 20 people involved. That's a big word count just in thank yous!! ------------- |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 12:03pm
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What's wrong with "thanks to everyone who's helped run the racing today and the tea bar".. I'm not sure we need individuals named, called out, photographed or named in posted reports, anymore than we all need to don a tie and jacket to enter the "club bar" any more (men only of course back in the day)... it's not the BAFTA's is it or, god-forbid, a Golf Club... this thread fits in the "NOT NEWS" category surely ?
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Posted By: robin34024
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 12:57pm
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i like to thank the OD and his team by name to be honest. not all of them, but maybe ''Jim the OD, Tom on the rescue boat and all of their helpers.'' or something like that. it means a lot more to thank someone by name than by generalisation. ------------- |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 05 Jun 13 at 1:02pm
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thank goodness I never win anything, too many onerous duties to perform!
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