Help, wtf do you call this bit?
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Topic: Help, wtf do you call this bit?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Help, wtf do you call this bit?
Date Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 4:36pm
It's the bit at the bottom of the bolt rope track, it upped and broke itself and I need to replace it by thursday, 1st what would you call it and 2nd who would you order it from? I've googled mast track and all I get are sliders, looked on superstars web site they don't appear to have it as a spare (It's a superspars mast for the alto, they of course now use selden although I doubt there will be much difference but their site doesn't seem to be any easier especially if you don't know what to search for.. Any bright ideas other than 'bit at bottom of bolt rope track' |
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Posted By: ellistine
Date Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 4:48pm
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RS call it a Mast Sail Feeder http://www.ldcsailing.com/selden-carbon-mast-sail-feeder.ir?cName=boat-parts-spars-mast-parts-rs-specific-mast-parts-rs100-mast-parts - http://www.ldcsailing.com/selden-carbon-mast-sail-feeder.ir?cName=boat-parts-spars-mast-parts-rs-specific-mast-parts-rs100-mast-parts
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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 5:03pm
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try this, mainsail track pre feeder http://www.ovingtonboats.com/products/637 - http://www.ovingtonboats.com/products/637 ------------- https://skiff-media.teemill.com/" rel="nofollow - T-SHIRTS https://www.photo4me.com/profile/23908/" rel="nofollow - PRINTS |
Posted By: kim allen
Date Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 5:15pm
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It is an A 924 Available form all good stockists. or failing that do call us on +44 (0)1621 774689 or mailto:sales@allenbrothers.co.uk - sales@allenbrothers.co.uk and we can help you with where to buy.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:11am
| Thanks chaps, another joyous overpriced cartel influenced dinghy parts experience, 14 quid for that small casting? We charge less than that for bearings. |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:17am
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moan, moan, moan, how about, thanks guys for telling me what the part is.
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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:23am
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alternatively... create your own out of a couple of coke cans and a ribbed condom. ------------- |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:29am
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I'm on the look out for old Lancaster Bomber wings to do precisely that.
Are you blind as well as dumb ex Laser? Read the post, thanks first, moan at pricing second. Outrageous pricing for such a cheap item. |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:32am
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GRF - You ungrateful sod!
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:40am
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Bugger off back to sleep now don, no point you waking up all suddenly like that and getting confused, nothing to see here...
I asked what something was they told me, I thanked them, then moaned about how much it cost and some other old duffer mislaid his specs and started up.. Now be a good old chap drink your tea and go back to sleep.. |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:19am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..........
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:20am
Wait until you discover what *they* cost these days... |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:30am
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Trouble is, because the "Thanks Chaps" simply had a comma after, it came out as sarcasm relating to the rest on the sentence. If you had said Thanks Chaps. How **** much? etc It would have been clearer. Good, now we have the English cleared up, I have to agree that £14 for that fitting seems somewhat over the top. Are there any broken masts at the club with one still on there? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:34am
ssshh Rupert... giving away trade secret gems like that. ------------- |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 12:18pm
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It had crossed my mind to go and rob the boys 505 they haven't used for a bit, but that happens to me some times and I hate it, finding shackles and bits missing, you're never really sure if you've been robbed or just unlucky and not tightened them up enough.
Not surprising the exorbitant cost of small items like this, seventeen quid including postage. Doh.. don's dribbling now, someone want to mop that up? |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 2:44pm
Get a bit of ally & wittle one yerself................. Man of your calibre............
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Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 3:13pm
| In terms of economy of scale it's pretty cheap for a part that will only be made in small numbers. |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 3:39pm
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I have one of those attached to the broken stump of an rs800 mast lying uselessly in my boatshed. £15.00 to you grumpf.
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Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 3:42pm
Hahahahahaha! love it! I could make you one if you like GRF for £40 ------------- Vareo 365 |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 3:59pm
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Economy of scale? Every dinghy with a bolt rope has one, about the only thing you could mass produce and it is a crap casting, I only levered it a bit and it fell in half.
They should cost sixpence, half a tanner at most* *I use the vernacular of the currency present when these things were originally produced and the entire ensemble sold for 20 guineas to gentlemen school masters.. |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:06pm
| Your still only talk small numbers even if every dinghy had one (neither of mine has one) compared to other industries. |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 10:13pm
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GRF - perhaps prices are cheaper in your bike and windsurf field because people in this industry are on here with an amazing service to rapidly ID, price and recommend suppliers to you. No doubt your costs would go up if you had to price the time you spend harrumphing. And that advice will be 3 shillings and sixpence.
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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 11:41pm
thanks rupert, that exactly how i read it. to g.r.f. if you would like to continue this discourse, please feel free to pm me and i will give you my phone mumber. otherwise please get back under your bridge, because what you put about me is not big and its not clever. ------------- |
Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 6:30am
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Christ guys, you lot are getting awful sensitive aren't you! I'm all for a grumpf bashing session but what he said isn't unreasonable, lots of dinghy stuff is rather expensive, be it due to manufacturing costs or profit.
Dan ------------- Laser 184084 Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 9:30am
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sorry dan.if you give it out s**t, then you should be able to take s**t. if you read the whole thread there is only one person being 'sensitive'. ------------- |
Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 9:41am
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Grumpf knows all too well that either a) manufacturing something for a niche market or b) bringing something in from abroad for a niche market and then shipping it around the country, financing the supply chain and ultimately selling it to retailers who then have their justifiable profit expectations, makes any single item transaction of fourteen quid rather 'good value' for us, the end consumer.... You've fed his trolling streak and a little personal pisstaking was a rather sweet and juicy pudding for him... nom nom ------------- |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 10:25am
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He also knows that something as old and unchanged as that mast sail feeder has had it's mould/casting costs homologated a hundred times over and probably costs all of sixpence to churn out, it'll probably be on a double up right down the chain, everyone making a good margin, we price items like that on a thirty margin because they are regarded as a spare part and their availability part of a customer enjoyment of sport necessity.
So I do object when clothing style margins are applied to spare parts. In fact they seem to be applying clothing style margins to lots of things in this business, sails in particular. I also don't like to see total uniformity of pricing across the board it does smack of retail price maintenance which we all know is illegal and some of us have had bitter experience of the OFT in the past for just such pricing cartel activities.. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 10:45am
Not to mention that it costs and takes just as much time to order a 5UKP spare as a 500UKP spare, and just as much time to sell it - if not more... |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 1:16pm
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greame if you want it I will drill it out for you and you can buy a me a sweet sherry at the FOM. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 2:46pm
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I'll certainly buy you a sweet sherry ever we meet wing wang..
As it is you simply cannot fault LDC for their service, came back from lunch and here it is complete with rivet on my desk, now all I've got to work out is how to chisel out the old rivet, then try and blag a rivet gun. I wonder if we might even have one in our bike workshop downstairs... |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 3:16pm
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If you can cut the old rivet out with pincers. How can anyone not own a rivet gun?
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 3:22pm
They screw things? 
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Apr 13 at 10:54pm
| Well after all that, the bloody thing didn't fit, there's a gap a good couple of mill between the top of the new bit and the track. I did manage to drill the old rivet, bought one of those rivet guns and even managed to work it, what is it with dingy bits, no two items are ever the same, even if they look similar. |
Posted By: andyxs
Date Posted: 21 Apr 13 at 2:31am
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[QUOTE=iGRF]He also knows that something as old and unchanged as that mast sail feeder has had it's mould/casting costs homologated a hundred times over and probably costs all of sixpence to churn out,
maybe they changed it a bit?
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