M.O.B Osprey. Good job
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Topic: M.O.B Osprey. Good job
Posted By: Pierre
Subject: M.O.B Osprey. Good job
Date Posted: 27 Mar 13 at 11:36am
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I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pQ_ZvADtn04 and thought it well worth a look. Good job and a good "real life" example of MOB recovery. |
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 27 Mar 13 at 1:17pm
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I suppose with dinghies you would have to recover to windward to stop the boat capsizing, with yachts you recover to leward. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 27 Mar 13 at 3:13pm
| And the recomendation on cats is between the hulls. |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 27 Mar 13 at 3:47pm
How does that work then? (Pardon my ignorance).
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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 28 Mar 13 at 6:21am
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End result was ok, a few flaws in the plan though. Can't criticise too much as it is a while since I've done a MOB recovery. ------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 13 at 6:55am
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Yes. RYA method recommends recovery at the windward shroud. Ideally you should be able to roll the boat a bit more than they did to windward, get the gunwhale close to water. Worthwhile on a warm summer's day, in a sensible location, having a go at doing it "for real" ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 28 Mar 13 at 7:23am
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as Al says, well worth trying it yourself. In a 'normal' two man situation you have to let go of everything to haul your MOB back on board so you need to avoid the boat bearing away and sailing off or rounding up and capsizing on top of you, recovery at the windward shroud helps this. While the transom recovery looks nice there are many boats that won't stand that much weight in the transom, the boat will tend to bear away, and you then potentially have steerage issues with the recover-ee in about the tiller.
------------- Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard" Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 28 Mar 13 at 8:43am
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yes, I've been teaching this a fair bit lately (DI pre entry coming up) It's harder than it looks, getting the approach right is critical. The one shown isn't standard method but is effective. I agree the recovery over the stern is dodgy - the clip clearly shows there's a danger of sailing off without your MOB! ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 13 at 8:45am
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Ages since I did instructing (and my cert has expired), but I think the figure of 8 is textbook as well- unless you're going downwind, it isn't uncommon to find yourself upwind of the MOB. To be able to get down wind of them enough to be coming sloiwly upwind towards them, whilst not sailing too far away from them, the figure of 8 gives you the room to manouver and avoids gybing. This all assumes no capsize. Very much something worth practising, as with capsize recovery. You should very rarely need to put into practice, but you'll be racing again much more quickly if you know what you're doing ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Richard20Sailing
Date Posted: 11 May 13 at 11:22pm
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Thank you for your kind comments on our MOB video. I was 100% real. Please contact me if you want a high res version for teaching. (With or with out music!) The bit that struck me in the episode was how much everything calmed down as soon as Katie realised her job was too point. A recovery at the shroud was not possible because Katie did not have the strength to haul the casualty aboard. If I had joined them the boat would have capsized to windward. The haul over the transom was very easy but yes I nearly let her slip away on the journey to the back of the boat. Katie has not crewed since this film and I am sadly the casualty is now resting from sailing. Katie has not given up. Last week end she helmed me round the Osprey open at Mounts Bay. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/169277/Osprey-Southern-Areas-and-Panmorra-Cup" rel="nofollow - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/169277/Osprey-Southern-Areas-and-Panmorra-Cup We came last of course but had a fantastic week end sailing a great boat in a wonderful place.
 ------------- To many shackles are never enough. |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 2:10pm
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Well done Richard and great to hear Katie is driving you round. Shows what a good all rounder the Osprey is
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Posted By: SoggyBadger
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 6:43pm
Best racing dinghy ever  ------------- Best wishes from deep in the woods SB |
Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 8:43pm
If you do it this way the person is protected by the boat and they can either pull them self up over the beam or you can pull them up over it. |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 9:03am
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I was reminded (oops) of how easy it is to recover someone onto a B14 yesterday- carefully dip the wing and it is easy to slide on. Up, away, and chase down the only boat within striking distance. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 9:38am
OK I get it, cheers.
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 10:12am
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I did a lovely recovery yesterday of someone's brand new glasses. Thanks goodness for those floating glasses straps.
------------- the same, but different... |