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Topic: National 12 Refurb
Posted By: hollandsd
Subject: National 12 Refurb
Date Posted: 23 Feb 13 at 6:33pm
Hi All

I have started the refurb of my National 12 today and have started my first blog.

If you are interested take a look:
http://national-12-refurb.blogspot.co.uk/ - http://national-12-refurb.blogspot.co.uk/

Cheers

Dan



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Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 5:13pm
Looks a fair bit of work. But lovely boat when you have finished. Are you going to add wings?

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Andy Mck


Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 7:59pm
A shame you're not keeping the back tank. They're much more practical than B bags.

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Needs to sail more...


Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 8:34pm
Disagree about that Tom, easier to drain with bags.

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Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 9:12pm
After having another look today I'm now in two minds about what to do, the transom isn't neat at all inside the tank.
May put a new top on the tank instead. What do people think?

Dan

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Laser 184084
Tasar 3501
RS600 698
RS600 782


Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 24 Feb 13 at 9:23pm
3253 has an extension to the back tank, not full width, so it gave you a lovely place to sit slightly inboard nearish the back...

I mean it gives more weight positioning options while dynamically balancing the boat downwind for optimum performance...

phew, I think I got away with it...


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Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch"
Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air"
Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile"


Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 10:36am
Repeatedly replacing bouyancy bags when they perish in the sun = BAD
Screwing fittings for bag retaining straps into thin hull planks = BAD
 
Sweeping curves of beautifully varnished wood = GOOD
 
Add some big drain tubes?


Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by aardvark_issues

Disagree about that Tom, easier to drain with bags.


Fair enough Mike, I was only speaking from my experience, I always found back tanks easier to sail and drain without two massive yellow racing marks strapped to the boat.

You should probably listen to Mike, he knows at least 70% more than me.


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Needs to sail more...


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 12:29pm
Confused Why?

Why would he do this I find myself wondering, last time he messed about with wood, even the woodworm packed their bags before he launched it.

So why? Has he taken leave of his senses totally?

Then it came to me.

Woman.

There's a woman involved and she's addled his brain.

That's the trouble with them when they're this 'age', born in bed with a woman and never got over the shock..


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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by tgruitt


Originally posted by aardvark_issues

Disagree about that Tom, easier to drain with bags.

Fair enough Mike, I was only speaking from my experience, I always found back tanks easier to sail and drain without two massive yellow racing marks strapped to the boat.You should probably listen to Mike, he knows at least 70% more than me.


I always found sailing the 12's I've had with bags very comfortable. And less of a trip hazard on a gnarly jibe than the edge of a rear tank!

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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 05 Mar 13 at 11:12am

Sack the tank off and fit some bags with nice colour cordinated bag covers.  You will save a bucket load of weight from the arse area, it will be quicker to drain and easier to do then redecking/installing a tank.



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Posted By: hollandsd
Date Posted: 06 Mar 13 at 7:21am
I think Russ that due to the transom being the way it is, I'd have to completely replace it to make it look good, also would need to make it higher as well.
Its going to be easier for me to replace the top of the tank and transom bar.
As I'm on a budget and time limit on this one I'll take the easier route.
Dan

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Laser 184084
Tasar 3501
RS600 698
RS600 782


Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 7:13am
seen this scenario played out on an old MR, don't think replacing the tank in that case was the right approach, lost a lot of stiffness when it went, good luck!



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