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Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: turbo 420
Posted By: winging it
Subject: turbo 420
Date Posted: 09 Feb 13 at 8:19pm
no wings on the foils but....

http://www.sail1design.com/airwaves/high-school-college-news/1042-turbo420 - see here


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the same, but different...




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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 09 Feb 13 at 9:07pm
April 1st??


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 12:18am
What's the all up weight of a proper International 420? That article is all about the weird, generally rather heavy, Club 420s that are used predominantly by US College sailing.

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Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 12:21am
Sounds like redneck turdo 420 has finaly caught up with about 1986.
There is more to the last two decades than vinylester and a modest weight loss, down from 'gross' to 'reasonable'.

The 420 is great 70's style small dinghy. If you want a good 21st century small dinghy, you need to look at the hull shape and the whole boat together.


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 8:03am
Whatever the intentions, mods, etc etc there in no way on earth that this will ever displace the international 420.
 
That may not be the intention, but it's how i read the article though i confess i didn't realise a club 420 was a differant boat.


Posted By: gbr940
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 9:17am
oh dear...why bother!

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RS400 GBR1321


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 10:43am
The article is not a fine example of clear-written journalism.  Anyway it now seems we have the International 420, the Laser Performance re-rigged Club 420 which is 10 kilos lighter (big deal?) and the Rondar Turbo 420 which may have an assy rig.  Hey, why not produce a few more varients?  It is not as if there aren't enough similar dinghys to choose from.  You could even strap a couple of hulls together and call it the 420 V-Twin Wink


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 12:06pm
You have to understand the american school and college scene to understand their requirement for these bizarre-to-us 420 variants.


Posted By: Mark Antony
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 1:44pm
Quite agree with the sentiment of the article and do like the direct American expression of view found further down in the supporting articles: "...until the Club 420 evolved into the sturdy but heavy pigs sailed today"

If motor racing had the same culture as sailing, people would still racing around the TT circuit on single cylinder Norton's. As a specific observation why do solos sail with 5kg of weight in them? And don't tell me it's about keeping old boats competitive - the introduction of FRP broke that link, so go the whole way and make sailing more fun.





Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 1:54pm
Lipstick anyone?


Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by Mark Antony

Quite agree with the sentiment of the article and do like the direct American expression of view found further down in the supporting articles: "...until the Club 420 evolved into the sturdy but heavy pigs sailed today"

If motor racing had the same culture as sailing, people would still racing around the TT circuit on single cylinder Norton's. As a specific observation why do solos sail with 5kg of weight in them? And don't tell me it's about keeping old boats competitive - the introduction of FRP broke that link, so go the whole way and make sailing more fun.




Plenty of people still racing Norton singles.
Why do Solos have a minimum weight?
So you can build a strong competitive wooden one if you choose.
There should always be some lead in a one-design.
So maybe there is scope to reduce the min weight by 2 or 3 kilos. BFD.
The class rules are voted on by the class members, if you don't like the older classes there is a vast array of classes that have attempted to improve on the Solo.
Not much point carping about one detail of a class that is still one of the most successful in the UK.



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