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Topic: Tiger Trophy (Pursuit Race) Result Query
Posted By: Bootscooter
Subject: Tiger Trophy (Pursuit Race) Result Query
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:24pm
Anyone know who to contact?
 
I've just seen that the Yoof's been recorded as DNC, as has the Ent that finished directly in front of him, and the 2 Radials that were immediately behind....



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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:28pm
oh crikey, what was the yoof in?  Probably Simon Lovesy at sail racer, though maybe also the club.  They did say they had lots of sets of recordings.  Hope they can sort it out.  We passed three Ents if that helps.

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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:37pm
Yoof was in the Radial (202471).
Finished behind Ent 55
Ahead of 202467 and 197716
 
All DNC.  Sounds like a bit of paper has gone missing to me (unless the lot of them missed a gate or something - I wasn't at briefing)
 
I know he wasn't in the frame for a prize or anything, but that's not the point...  When he came past the Clubhouse 3 mins before the end I counted him in about 46th (though there was a lot of faster boats coming up behind).  He really enjoyed himself today - was sat in 8th at the 1 hr point, which is always good for confidence.


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:44pm
I don't remember Ent 55, nor your boy, but I did see 197716, if that helps.

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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:47pm
Not another pushy parent pushing their child's cause ...

If there is a results query all the competitor needs to do is enquire with the race organisation. 


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:49pm
Cheers Nessa..... the 4 mentioned finished in a tight clump.  Did you see a really handsome fella ashore yesterday in military combat clothing, complete with beret?
 
*raises single eyebrow, seductively*


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 6:53pm
Originally posted by L123456

Not another pushy parent pushing their child's cause ...

If there is a results query all the competitor needs to do is enquire with the race organisation. 
 
Why don't you poke off with your snotty assumptions?
 
Possibly, just possibly, one of the parents is stationed hundereds of miles away from his wife and kids, and thus only had a short distance to drive after seeing his family for the 1st time in weeks.  Perhaps the other parent (and the child) are still on the road going home.  What's so wrong with me trying to find out my son's result? And finding out what HE should do/ who HE should contact because of a possible mistake?


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 7:15pm
From the report of the 1st day, those 420's with wings on the rudder were going great guns...

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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter

Cheers Nessa..... the 4 mentioned finished in a tight clump.  Did you see a really handsome fella ashore yesterday in military combat clothing, complete with beret?
 
*raises single eyebrow, seductively*


no, I only had eyes for sargesail...and my tea LOL


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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 7:30pm
*sulks*
 
Sorry about the rant just now, but I do get fed up with the regular bashing on here that the RYA/Squad System/Suportive Parents get.
 
Just for the record, I (just like many others on here) have spent literally 1000's of hours over the last 5+ years helping to further our sport by coaching not just my own kids, but all those new to the sport at my Club.  Yes, there is a very small element of the "Pushy" type around, but for the most part parents are supporting their kids at these events.  More often than not parents are not allowed to set boats up at these events as the youngsters are far, far better and quicker at it than the oldies.  My wife and I did pack away the Yoof's boat today, but that's because he was proper cold (too cold out there for me to sail), and as responsible pareents of a 14 year old we need to look after him.
 
Yoof is NOT in a Squad this year, but he's still out there enjoying himself and his sport, which is all any of us can hope for where our kids' sailing is concerned.
 
If L123456 knew anything about me at all perhaps he/she wouldn't have posted like that.  After all, it'd be wrong if I did the same and made the assumption that he/she was either a "dropped" squaddie with unsupportive parents, or an aging Laser sailor which a chip on the shoulder about getting beaten by kids.  If he/she had read my recent posts, he/she would know about our non-pushy racing plans for this year already.
 
Nessa - I'll wear a red carnation in my button-hole at the next event and we'll have a pintWink


Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by Rupert

From the report of the 1st day, those 420's with wings on the rudder were going great guns...
 
Today they were wizzing along at the start while the wind was really honking - the fleet looked brilliant and the standard was really high.  Didn't see any getting airbourne though... morre development needed perhapsWink


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 8:06pm
I thought all the young sailors did really well this weekend.  Yesterday was horribly cold and windy, with some (but not much) waiting between races.  The youth boats seemd very well behaved too.

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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 8:11pm
There seemed to be proportionally more youth/junior entries to this than the other SJ events - perhaps a signpost of just how many have been helped by the JMT over the years.Thumbs Up


Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 9:57pm
Just posted the latest results received from Rutland

Any results queries please contact the club direct,  and provide them with as much information as possible about boats who finished just ahead and behind you



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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 10:12pm
Thanks Simon - no change on the latest list,but we appreciate your helpThumbs Up


Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 03 Feb 13 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Bootscooter

Thanks Simon - no change on the latest list,but we appreciate your helpThumbs Up

I only have the overall results as published online,  I don't have the raw data and finishing sheets,  I am sure the club will look at ASAP


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Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Bootscooter

Originally posted by L123456

Not another pushy parent pushing their child's cause ...

If there is a results query all the competitor needs to do is enquire with the race organisation. 
 
Why don't you poke off with your snotty assumptions?
 
Possibly, just possibly, one of the parents is stationed hundereds of miles away from his wife and kids, and thus only had a short distance to drive after seeing his family for the 1st time in weeks.  Perhaps the other parent (and the child) are still on the road going home.  What's so wrong with me trying to find out my son's result? And finding out what HE should do/ who HE should contact because of a possible mistake?
Yep, that is the typical tone of response I'd expect from a pushy parent.
 
You know his score, it is DNC. What you are saying is you think the score is wrong, if you believe that is the case your son needs to query it with the race officer as I helpfully pointed out in my post.


Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 10:59am
Originally posted by L123456

Originally posted by Bootscooter

Originally posted by L123456

Not another pushy parent pushing their child's cause ...

If there is a results query all the competitor needs to do is enquire with the race organisation. 
 
Why don't you poke off with your snotty assumptions?
 
Possibly, just possibly, one of the parents is stationed hundereds of miles away from his wife and kids, and thus only had a short distance to drive after seeing his family for the 1st time in weeks.  Perhaps the other parent (and the child) are still on the road going home.  What's so wrong with me trying to find out my son's result? And finding out what HE should do/ who HE should contact because of a possible mistake?
Yep, that is the typical tone of response I'd expect from a pushy parent.
 
You know his score, it is DNC. What you are saying is you think the score is wrong, if you believe that is the case your son needs to query it with the race officer as I helpfully pointed out in my post.


L123456, your postings look like you're being deliberately unpleasant. Please desist from such posts in future. Yes, the comment about querying with the race officer is useful, but the comment about pushy parenting is not. I'm trying to keep this forum a friendly place!


Posted By: L123456
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 11:03am
It is not me telling people to "poke off" ...
Plenty of "pushy parent" comments on the 420 winged rudder thread, what is special about this one?


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 11:24am
Well, it is aimed at one parent, not at a (possibly mythical) complete subset of sailing.

One person's pushy parent is another's caring individual, but there is certainly a difference between enquiring as to how a result can be checked on a sailing forum and shouting at race officials that little Jonny has had his Olympic dreams ruined becuase of imcompetence - that would be a pushy parent.


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Posted By: old fart
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 12:08pm
Pursuit races are notoriously difficult to account for all the competitors, especially on a windward leg as competitors can be spread right across the body of the water when the gun goes. Genuine competitors get mixed up with retiring boats.
We all have probably suffered from this at some point.  I would not like to be the race officer for a pursuit race with 200 plus boats and multiple rounds of the course. You certainly need a lot of switched-on helpers plus video back-up  


Posted By: gbr940
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 12:12pm
Putting my really sceptical head on - but the Fireball that one with the "tape-drive" mainsail...is it not "class-rules" and even in the RRS that the country letters are required on the mainsail? Technicality I know but the photos showing this particular item has irritated me a little

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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by gbr940

Putting my really sceptical head on - but the Fireball that one with the "tape-drive" mainsail...is it not "class-rules" and even in the RRS that the country letters are required on the mainsail? Technicality I know but the photos showing this particular item has irritated me a little


Technically true, but aren't the 'issues' with possible / reportedly / allegedly out-of-class boats at these winter events more about performance enhancement?

Most SI's I have come across for open events allow different numbers to be used if the RO is 'asked' via a request on the event noticeboard.. (Although this normally relates to a mid-event change of number)


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Posted By: Strangler
Date Posted: 04 Feb 13 at 12:44pm
National letters. RRS say only needed for international events- Appendix G.....   technically...



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