changing fc8 for newer sportsboat
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Topic: changing fc8 for newer sportsboat
Posted By: paul w
Subject: changing fc8 for newer sportsboat
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 6:09am
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Hi new to this forum,need some help on replacing my first class 8 with
similar lifting keel sportsboat.Keel mechanism must be good as need to
raise it and leave it on a mooring.Would love something faster and the
same size or slightly bigger to sail under ECHO (irish HCap)
thanks
------------- paul |
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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 8:53am
| Tricky. The boats I can think of that size all have fixed keels. SB3 is worth considering as a more modern sportsboat with a lifting keel but it is a lot smaller and is a "dayboat" without a "lid" so not directly comparable to a FC8. |
Posted By: paul w
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 7:35pm
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Thanks for that.What does anyone know about sigma 8m 00D is it a better boat than a first class 8?
------------- paul |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 7:44pm
| Haven't seen one for years. I saw a boatshow model and it struck me as a bit fragile; just an impression maybe. |
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 28 Sep 05 at 12:50pm
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Far better than an First class 8 , well in terms o speed , used to sail em occaisonaly as for fragile well dare I say there are no two exactly alike !!!, I sailed a fragile one - went like a rocket and a not so fragile (ie you could stand anywhere on it !) , went like a dog .
Gr8 boats if you buy the right one , but research very carefully and if you want fast fragility is way to go . The boats I sailed were new at the time . We also could pace just about anything up wind 35- 40 foot and beat melges downwind because sigma 8 has huge mast head kite . No Corks then to thrash tho !! and when all went t*ts up bulb on keel would bring it back up without wet antics !! one VERY windy race at Nats proved this
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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 28 Sep 05 at 1:12pm
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Weren't they new in around 95? Therefore "fragile" then probably means "falling apart" today. Interesting comment that the build was variable; if memory serves they were built in Croatia; hence cheap. |
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 28 Sep 05 at 3:25pm
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yup Croatia !!!! 95 time flies When they fell out of fashion you couldn't give one away , they now have regained value . trust me some are more equal than others !!!, but when you get to know some "one designs" tis often the case ! As to how they have faired over time only a current Sig 8 sailor could tell , they have prob gained weight - got more flexible . Some had extra lead fitted in bilge for better sportsboat rating .
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Posted By: paul w
Date Posted: 28 Sep 05 at 10:06pm
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thanks lads always fancied one but how would you know a good one from a
bad one? also looking at a Rogers W27 balsa built looks good but
crap keel arrangement.any ideas
------------- paul |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 29 Sep 05 at 6:44am
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If you mean - are they problems, the usual advice is to hire a marine surveyor. Although personally I didn't last time I bought a boat. I just spent a lot of time crawling over them looking for problems. If you mean - is it a quick one, you can only look at the racing record. That can be hard to disentangle from the skills or otherwise of previous owners. Funnily enough, the nationals winner is usually rumoured to have a "fast boat". Rogers generally has a good reputation for build quality. Can't say any more than that on the W27. |
Posted By: damp_freddie
Date Posted: 14 Mar 06 at 9:44pm
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To maybe give a tuppence onn the original, the k6 or SB3 seem excellent no accomodattion boats the 8m as discussed above- bendy foredeck. Mast head blaster but I've seen them capsized! to quote a former owner " everything was fine until you were doing 17kntts then the keel cavatates and you broach " what about the platu 25- doesn't draw much isis 21? |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 31 Mar 06 at 5:51pm
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bull 7000? im not exactly sure how big they are but they go like crap off a shiny shovel. don't know about the keel mechanism though. my dad used to crew on one and i got a ride once. it was truly awesome. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: bovlike
Date Posted: 01 Apr 06 at 7:45am
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sigma 8 is a fast boat with a BIG kite. But The keel wobbles The boat is a bit bendy the handicap is crap ------------- Ian (Bov) Turnbull 18ft Skiff Ronstan UK http://www.ianturnbullmarine.co.uk - Chandlery, tapered ropes and specialist solutions for sailors who demand the best - BovBoats.co.uk |
Posted By: ian m
Date Posted: 15 May 06 at 5:00pm
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i would highly recommend the sb3. i went to the grand prix event at seaview this weekend. 50 boats. amazing racing, great boats, 3 or 4 crew. pretty sure there will be large fleets at cork week and cowes week sigma 8, maybe fast but under irc they are rubbish handicap. speak to laser or class association they are fully loaded with info. roughly20 grand for new but there are a few 2nd hand boats around as well. |
Posted By: feva_sailor
Date Posted: 17 May 06 at 3:01pm
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may be a bit big.have lifting keel and are very fast.30 foot long and very like a mumm30 but better.used in dubai junior regatta for match racing.made in the uae in jebel ali port.
on dock. 
and sailing. 
and a very windy day. 
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Posted By: far canal
Date Posted: 17 May 06 at 3:18pm
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bull 7000? im not exactly sure how big they are
how about 7 metres ????
its all in the name
Sigma 8 - 8 metres |