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Topic: Whitefriars?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Whitefriars?
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 4:50pm
I seem to remember some on here are from there, how close to the edge of the world where you fall off into Wales is it then?

There's an EPS cluster there, where I can try my new soft sail against the old style one sailed probably by folk better at sailing them than me, is it bigger than an acre?



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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 4:53pm
Not to worry, https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=whitefriars+sailing+club&ll=51.658754,-1.92544&spn=0.011168,0.018733&client=safari&oe=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=whitefriars+sailing+club&radius=15000&t=h&z=16&iwloc=A - found it

As you were, stand down.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 5:21pm
There are 2 (rather good) eps sailors there, but they have been out only irregularly recently.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 6:33pm
2? Is one called Simon Bates?

They had an open meeting there last April.

Ah spotted it in your sig, so you sail there then Rupert, I might see you then..


Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 3:24am
 have found whitefriars to be one of the friendliest clubs around.

always had a warm welcome there even when the weather has been cold and wet.Smile




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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 7:30am
Club I grew up at....and sailed a few times since - lovely place and people.



Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 8:49am
Ivor Keates and John Codner, Grumph. I don't think they frequent this site, but I'd imagine you could get hold of them via the eps group thing.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 9:26am
Thanks Rupert, yes I'm chatting via the EPS groupie thing on Yahoo and they're speaking of an annual event there, it was April last year, may be May this, although now I'm fully winterised I'd kind of like to do it a bit earlier than that. I'm getting constantly pummelled down here on my little lake by Louts in Lasers and it's time for payback, but, I want to see if I can encourage others to see the way the truth and the light of having a soft sail rather than the fully battened one, a bit like the Blaze lot did with theirs.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 9:41am
If you do come down, I'd love a go with the soft sailed boat - I'm not a big fan of fully battened rigs, but loved the eps otherwise.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 10:33am
I think it'll make an otherwise pleasant but PY compromised boat a little more competitive to sail on the sort of water we last met on.

And if that doesn't do it, then the next thing to change is the foil shape of the daggerboard, they are the only things that can be causing the lack of get up and go out of the turns..


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 10:48am
John and Ivor always tend to be right up there on handicap, v's Phantoms, Solos and the Lightning, so I'm not sure the handicap (certainly on 80 acres of sailing water) is too wrong. I can see that it would quickly suffer when sailed anywhere too much smaller, though, and the sail would be my first port of call, too.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Dec 12 at 2:49pm
So is Whitefriars a fairly big stretch of water then? You know like more than ten yards before you have to tack?

I don't do to bad with the EPS on the sea, I've won a couple outright and come close to doing it actually over the water when it's very light. I think it is actually quite well matched to a Phantom, providing there's room enough for it to stretch it's legs, yet at the FOM I didn't even get close to Maxi Buddah and I doubt I would on this lake if my pal Barry showed up in his Phantom, that's where the high volume of the Phantom really pays and the Laser is impacted by the fresh water.


Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 22 Dec 12 at 8:10am
I'd kind of like to do it a bit earlier than that
 
How about popping down on 23rd or 24th March ??
There might be a few forumites there that day Wink
 
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 22 Dec 12 at 2:20pm
That would be fairly pointless, from a learning about sailing perspective, that's my birthday weekend and this year it's a bit of a major trauma birthday that will need extreme (alcohol) therapy to overcome. I'm planning a final rear up, I might not even survive it if I'm at all lucky.. Death by dancing will be the coroners report.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 23 Dec 12 at 1:55pm
Someone in my family has recently moved to Cerney Wick and has two young boys who may be looking to start sailing.  What are the relative merits of Whitefriars, South Cerney SC the the Cotswold Sailing Club?


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 30 Dec 12 at 4:11pm
I'm biased, but I like the Whitefriars Junior group the best - good level of tuition, I hope, but not driven by racing. Starting in Oppis, but moving on fairly quickly to Teras, then Toppers, Q'bas and Fevas. South Cerney have an active Cadet fleet, concentrating more on racing, I think (I'm sure an SCSC members can help more with the details there) but not sure about Cotswold Juniors.

Adult wise, South Cerney possibly has a better strength in depth than Whitefriars, which is all based on handicap racing. Cruising is allowed at all times at WSC, though you do need a buddy in the winter, and generally they don't get shouted at by the racers, except possibly in moments of panic! We are working towards getting the older juniors better intergrated into the racing scene, currently.

Hope that helps a little. We are back open mid Jan, so you are welcome to pop over one Sunday to take a look. SCSC and Cotswold are within a couple of miles, so easy to do all the clubs in one day, though you might not get an accurate impression of them all at this time of year!


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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 30 Dec 12 at 8:38pm
Thanks Rupert,  I'll pass the advice on.



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