New boat trailer Regs
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Topic: New boat trailer Regs
Posted By: andybury
Subject: New boat trailer Regs
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 5:16pm
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I have heard, but cant find anything on the net that new regulations are coming in for boat trailers. Can anybody point me towards any info on this. Cheers
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Posted By: Telltale
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 5:51pm
If you follow the link and type' trailers ' in the blog search it gives you an idea of the changes in various posts. http://flyingfifteen.wordpress.com - http://flyingfifteen.wordpress.com the full regulations are almost unintelligible!  |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 8:48pm
| When I did a major refurb of a thirty year old trailer and it came out close to what a new trailer would cost I thought I'd been damn silly... But with all these regs I reckon trailer restoration could be a good little earner... |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 9:35am
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Can't have enough regulation....
The one thing I wish would come from Europe is the speed limit thing from France. Up to a certain weight there is no specific weight other than the current road limit. Should cover most boat trailers except ff's. ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 10:39am
I completely disagree. Have you seen the state a lot of trailers are in, I would guess a great majority of dinghy trailers are not road legal or well mainatined. I strongly oppose the speed limit on motorways being raised to 80mph too, 70mph is more than fast enough for any car even with modern technology, it's the human behind that wheel that won't be good enough. ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 11:30am
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And your last comment Tom that is exactly the point. It is not the speed of the car its the user. Now my trailer is on perfectly good working road legal condition as is my box trailer. There is no real weight issue that causes it to be towed at less of a speed than the speed limit.
As for trailers that are in a less than road worthy condition then they wouldn't be acceptable even to the reduced British speed limit so shouldn't be on the road. Maybe the bit mentioned on the ff site about yearly testing of trailers is a relevant and sensible point. I also never said about increasing the national speed limit at all, just allow lightweight trailers to be towed at that national speed limit. ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 11:53am
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If that were the case then wouldn't everyone have to upgrade their trailer wheels and tyres? I didn't think they were designed for high speeds? Bearing in mind on a 70mph road driving at nearer 80 seems the norm these days. 65 on the inside lane for me! (no trailer).
------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:00pm
| My trailer has 10inch wheels with tyres that are rated at 85mph, with about 5 times the weight they are carrying. I could easily fit 115mph radials to it, but anything over a ton gives the boat covers a hard time. |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:03pm
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Tommo, since you passed your test recently you can't tow anyway! You need a seperate test. Old fogeys like me who passed their (normal) driving test in the 90s got trailer endorsements as standard. |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:40pm
Oi I am not that old, and yes I can tow anything. I did the B+E trailer teat so I can tow a 6 stacker Pico trailer using a Jeep Cherokee. TBH if you are a youngun and need to do the test, providing you can reverse turn you should be fine.  The test is completed using a box trailer so you cant see out the back and have to use the side mirrors. ------------- |
Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:42pm
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Doesn't need a separate trailer endorsement, unless the trailer is over 750kg Design Gross Weight.
Have to say, I'm not sure why anyone would want to put their cherished dinghy through the punishment of being towed on the crude suspension and hard cradles of the average trailer at anywhere near a ton. Pretty sure I wouldn't!
Neil ------------- No FD? No Comment! |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:44pm
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I'm pretty sure it is all trailers that need the licence endorsement. The test (image above) looks awful. I would fail that! Mind you, this is less concerning than the fact that my granny still has a valid licence... |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 12:44pm
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See following links: http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/O1-O4%20IVA%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/trailers.asp Boat trailers for dinghies are typically class 01 (less than 750kg without brakes). Existing designs (newly made - doesn't apply retrospectively) are supposed to be either type approved or IVA'd (every single trailer tested before sale) by October 2012 (new designs form October 2010). The big deal for most boat trailers will be getting the right chassis plate on, proving the suspension and hitch are up to the job and getting the requisite lights / reflectors in place. This includes stuff you make yourself but then how do you prove how old a hand made trailer is? We make industrial plant that is towed on the road and get a special dispensation until 2014 because it is "specialist equipment". ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 1:52pm
When I looked at the regs a few weeks ago I thought that only trailers above a certain weight needed a separate license endorsement. See https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving-licence-rules-and-what-you-can-tow Test doesn't look easy, but take it slow & it should be OK, as long as it doesn't have to be done in one go! ------------- Nick D-Zero 316 |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 2:04pm
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Change of law not as neccessary as a change of driver training IMO, and some decent rules around the design of trailers - saw a double stacker recently with what, I guess, were supposed to be strap mooring 'points' but in reality, looked like just the kind of thing that would be ideal to impale a poor cyclist in the back of the head as you went by. If you want to trail a double-stacker or multi-boat trailer then you should have an endorsement, whenever you got your license. At the very least, I'd want to get a lot of practice in before going out on the road with one, and I've been towing for 20yrs now. |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 2:06pm
I can tow pretty much any dinghy... ------------- Needs to sail more... |
Posted By: gbr940
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 2:29pm
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Towing over 750kg requires the endorsed certificate...if your dinghy and trailer/trolley weighs more than that together you best have a word with yourself. ------------- RS400 GBR1321 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 2:31pm
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you should be alright with a triple stacker with most boats. ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 2:37pm
This is a 6 stacker Topper Trailer, I tow the same but with Laser Picos x 6 plus all the kit, spars, foils and trolleys on the trailer.  Going back to the test, the reverse is the first thing you have to do, taking it very slowly with the examiner watching from outside the car, you need to back it to within a metre of the back wall. You can shunt forward twice but only get out of the car once. When you do, engine has to be off, handbrake on, and the door has to be shut. You have to uncouple and couple the trailer checking it is roadworthy and do a 50 minute drive which includes a 10 minute individual drive, ie following signs. They removed the emergency stop from the test. All driving is mirrors, mirrors, and 10 - 2. The test centre is the same as the HGV test centre ------------- |
Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 8:05pm
| Kingston Maurward College used to offer a course called "How to Reverse Your Horsebox". I think they still do something similar! |
Posted By: Telltale
Date Posted: 06 Dec 12 at 10:49pm
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Whist the practical issue of towing and how to tow is important, I think that there are more important issues to be discussed relating to the new EU trailer regulations. Consider the financial implications of this: There is discussion relating to lighting whereby all electrics have to be WITHIN the trailer. In addition, there would be no overhang permitted, and side lighting may be required. This means that the trailers might look like this. The
implementation date seems to be 2016 and 'a week is a long time in Europe', but
are we ready for this?
http://flyingfifteen.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/maybe-the-future-of-trailers-looks-like-this/ - http://flyingfifteen.wordpress.com/2012/10/16/maybe-the-future-of-trailers-looks-like-this/ |
Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 8:35am
It took twelve years for them to get round to implementing the battery cage ban so I am not pannicking just yet.
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 8:39am
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If telltale is right then you can bet that the majority of second hand boats will be sold without trailers from then on due to the increased cost of new ones.
That said no one will be buying a new trailer anyway as they won't be able to afford the fuel to tow anything anywhere, so maybe we are all worrying about nothing. ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 9:42am
| I did a Euros this summer and the Dutch & Germans turned up with setups pretty much like photo posted by Telltale, I'm talking dinghies not FFs. Of course nobody likes the thought of more legislation and expense but they did look much better built and a pretty convincing way to travel an item some of us spend a lot of time and money on. I think most of them were on 13 inch wheels which would give a vastly kinder and more reliable ride than the tiny high pressure 8 inch supplied with many in the uk and significantly better than the 10 inch that most of us who trail regularly use. |
Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 9:59am
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Someone will have to define 'within the trailer'. Ribs & powerboats are generally launched off their trailers - not separate trollies like us dinghy types habitually use. It is a requirement for them to be able to remove the electrical components entirely, before they're completely ruined by immersion. ------------- Nick D-Zero 316 |
Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 10:02am
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On the topic of wheels, if it is acceptable for Smart cars and the like weighing what? 600Kgs+? to run around on tiny wheels then what is the problem with dinghy trailers. Fitness for purpose has to be the test & I suspect that the regulators are thinking caravans & box / agricultural trailers.
Lastly, who is to say when a trailer - without markings - was made? And who is going to enforce this? There's no traffic police to speak of anymore... ------------- Nick D-Zero 316 |
Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 11:36am
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have just got a new double trailer from sovereign trailers ( great bit of kit .) and talked to the guy in charge a lot about it. he was generally in favour of it, because he felt it would raise the quality of trailer manufacture, even if it would cause him some problems. the only visual differance is that lighting boards have to be attached to the trailer, not the boats and lights on the mud guards. it just means before loading or unloading you would have to undo a couple of bolts to remove the lighting board assembly. at least it would mean it is less likely to fall off, when on the move!  ------------- |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 12:15pm
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I think the Main issue with towing is that people tend to think they know what they are doing but dont acutally, also they dont secture their loads correctly, The amount of boats i see bouncing down the road and getting airboune. the correct towing vehical is important as well, you can tow 1900kg with my Golf but i really wouldnt want to do it if the trailer started snaking but towing it with our Disco you dont even notice it we are about to tow 1000 miles with a 3 ton yacht on the back and have made alot of preperations, ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 12:16pm
My partners Smart car actually has very wide wheels on the back to spread the load ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 12:36pm
| Smart Cars do at least have suspension that works, unlike the rubbish that seems to be universal on combi trailers. |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 12:55pm
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Agreed, tbh the old leaf sprung trailers seem better, we still have indespension units ( of types) on our Sonata tailer and thats rated to 2.3 tons dinghy ones dont seem to even move ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 2:08pm
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Our industrial kit runs on nothing more than glorified indespension units and that is at 3000kg, The trouble is, unladen it just doesn't move and bounces instead ------------- Vortex Asymmetric 1064 Dart 18 7118 Smartkat stunt sailor extraordinaire |
Posted By: Telltale
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 3:02pm
The way it works is the lighting board arms slide in and out within the trailer base and so is removable, you just pull it out, then you can launch. Anyway with an LED trailer board it probably wouldn't matter anyway being "impervious to weather".
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Dec 12 at 3:12pm
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hmm, I suspect "impervious to weather" != "salt water immersion proof"
I agree with other posts that standard indespension units are way overated for weight and have way inadequate travel for towing racing boats. But they are *so* cheap that you'd never sell trailers with decent suspension... |
Posted By: zippyRN
Date Posted: 26 Dec 12 at 3:58am
people with post 96 cat B licences CAN tow as unbraked trailers do not come under B+E , show me a a single or even double dinghy trailer that weighs more than 750 Kg loaded ...
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 26 Dec 12 at 8:53am
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with most dinghies you should be OK with a triple...
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Posted By: tick
Date Posted: 26 Dec 12 at 9:09am
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Indespension units just seem to be a way of connecting a wheel to a chassis. They dont do much going up and down. The best trailers are those old ones with a transverse leaf spring.......except when I had the spring break on the M1. |
Posted By: welshwizard
Date Posted: 26 Dec 12 at 9:03pm
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you need a b+e if the trailer weighs more than 750kgs... OR if the car and trailer weigh more than 3500kgs combined!!! shouldn't and doesn't really bother 'dinghy' sailors buts its great watching caravans getting pulled on the A55 in north Wales in the summer!!!
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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 28 Dec 12 at 11:22am
------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: kevg
Date Posted: 28 Dec 12 at 11:47am
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Driving licenses are changing again in January 2013. So perhaps more confusion? https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car - https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car I found this web page tells you exactly what *you* can drive with your age and current license categories. https://www.gov.uk/towing-rules - https://www.gov.uk/towing-rules
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Posted By: andybury
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 8:41am
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See the link below to see photos of the regs for dinghy trailers . http://www.boonboats.co.uk/acatalog/Road_Bases.html This is what I was looking for when I first posted this thread but it looks like most people are unaware of the new regs. |
Posted By: SoggyBadger
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 8:50am
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As far as I can tell the new regs only apply to new trailers.
------------- Best wishes from deep in the woods SB |
Posted By: andybury
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 8:57am
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Yes thats right but can’t find any info anywhere. I can see lots of companies are not selling the new style trailers - Indespensions website there is no mention and all looks the same. Surely somebody needs to put out a press release to inform us all if there is a change. |
Posted By: andybury
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 9:06am
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Nothing here http://www.ldcsailing.com/boat-care-towing-trolleys-trailers-trailers.irc - http://www.ldcsailing.com/boat-care-towing-trolleys-trailers-trailers.irc http://www.tridentuk.com/sailing/Trident-Trailers.html - http://www.tridentuk.com/sailing/Trident-Trailers.html http://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=find - http://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=find  |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 10:18am
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I can see the market in second hand trailers growing and prices rising, these new trailers can only be more expensive. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 10:26am
| There's certainly a strong motivation to refurbish old road bases rather than buy new ones... Maybe even Grandfather's axe type refurbishments will become popular... |
Posted By: rb_stretch
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 10:44am
Missed this thread first time round. I've got one of those trailers with the internal lighting setup for my bigger boat and they are a nightmare. Basically they are not salt**ter proof, so I'm forever scraping terminals to make the connections good. Far better off and more reliable to have a separate lighting boat that has no connections on route and never goes near salt water.
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Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 08 Feb 13 at 3:02pm
| Not sure how they will apply the front lights to a cat trailer as most if not all have the hulls out sdie of the wheel line and the trailer frame. oh and i like the fact that my lighting board sits on the back of the cat where it is easy to see not low down like the suggested place which is also a lot lower than car lights are. |
Posted By: Blackie
Date Posted: 09 Feb 13 at 1:03pm
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I think it's almost as confusing for the trailer manufacturers as it is for the users!!! It seems VOSA were told by the government to step into line with European law regarding trailers. They don't have the will or the manpower to manage it. They've brought in all the new legislation but their guys were as confused about it(initially) as everyone else. And they've said publicly that they won't be policing it. As a user I wouldn't give it a second thought as the onus is on the manufacturer to make sure any new trailers meet the regs. We've made dinghy trailers with lights to the euro spec for many years and have made them with the lighting arms as per the Boon link. But we think (taking advice from within the industry) that although lights need to be mounted on the trailer when it's empty we can still mount them on the boat when loaded. Certainly that's what some of the German trailer makers are doing.... ------------- B14 - 764 Admiral Trailers |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 09 Feb 13 at 1:53pm
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Boat trailers designed for launching seem to be exempt from some things anyway. But is a combi base designed for launching? Or does a combi count as a trailer? |
Posted By: Blackie
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 11:47am
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I'm not aware of any differences... What would they be then? ------------- B14 - 764 Admiral Trailers |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 2:08pm
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Do always remember that it is perfectly possible for British authorities to apply a stricter (and perhaps wrong) interpretation of European regulations than everywhere else. Also, don't forget that it is always possible that the worst of European regulations were drafted by British bureaucrats... ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 10 Feb 13 at 2:12pm
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Now "Googled" German trailer manufacturers and found several interesting images. But of course as alstorer says, it's all down to interpretation and implementation. |
Posted By: Roger
Date Posted: 27 Feb 13 at 8:25pm
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Looks like there has been a decision by VCA and DFT over the last couple of days, see this link.. http://www.merseatrailers.com/latest_news.php?news_ID=7&news=Type%20Approval%20-%20Classification%20of%20Special%20Purpose%20Vehicles - http://www.merseatrailers.com/latest_news.php?news_ID=7&news=Type%20Approval%20-%20Classification%20of%20Special%20Purpose%20Vehicles |
Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 27 Feb 13 at 11:40pm
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Doesn't really clear things up much. Each trailer will be judged on merit! In that case all that a trailer manufacturer has to do is add a feature which cannot comply with the regs and then the whole trailer will get labelled as SPV and becomes excempt!
Well thats how I read it anyway.
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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 28 Feb 13 at 6:52am
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I've published this now at http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/168178/Vehicle-Certification-Authority-statement - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/168178/Vehicle-Certification-Authority-statement The key line I read was "The SPV must not be designed also for general purpose activities.", which tends to suggest that boat trailers must comply. But then they say that they can only give their interpretation and that it's up to the courts to decide. Definitely |
Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 28 Feb 13 at 7:37am
| Well exactly. Cos I read that statement exactly the other way...a dinghy trailer can have no purpose other than to carry the trolley and boat... |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 28 Feb 13 at 6:03pm
Indeed. It would be general purpose if you put a flat deck on it for moving other stuff. Just wish the EU would pass a law forcing trailer makers to fit suspension that worked decently. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 01 Mar 13 at 2:41pm
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Its a gloriously equivocal statement isn't it? If they were sitting much harder on the fence they'd have a post somewhere uncomfortable.
Think I'll stick to keeping an old trailer roadworthy... |
Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 01 Mar 13 at 2:48pm
what about your Christmas tree, or an old sofa to the tip? ------------- |
Posted By: andybury
Date Posted: 08 Mar 13 at 12:11pm
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Why are all the large trailer manufactures companies except for Mersea not displaying the new trailers on there websites? What about rs laser topper are they suppling the new trailers? Whats going on!!!! Boats must be being sold at the moment with road trailers. Nothing on the RYA site either.
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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 08 Mar 13 at 3:20pm
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I followed some inbreed from my village with his tractor and muck spreader this morning, not a light or plate in sight and further more he seemed to be spreading more muck on the road than the field. As usual the EU are re arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 08 Mar 13 at 3:51pm
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Thunder Road, that's a failing of local enforcement- bet he didn't clear the mess from the road either (like he's legally obliged to) ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 08 Mar 13 at 4:55pm
Yes but he has been farming there for xxx generations whereas you have only lived there for a short time. He has always spread his sh1t on the road and the fields this way and so did his father and his father before him and......
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Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 09 Mar 13 at 8:00am
| Local enforcement - that's a joke in the country. Our lane was so muddy last autumn from the sweetcorn harvesting that the mud blocked the drain and caused a huge puddle too deep to get the car through. I was planning to take the 9ft dinghy and sail it there but they finally cleared it after a fortnight! Looking at the trailers at the dinghy show with fixed lighting boards, I cannot see how these meet the rule about having lights at the rearmost part of the rig when a boat is on and overhanging at the back. Surely you'd still have to have a separate lighting board on the boat to ensure that some Audi driver doesn't try to hoopla his rings on your rudder pintles. |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 09 Mar 13 at 2:35pm
| Re Trailers at Show. Speaking from a point of ignorance because I wasn't there, but, were they not telescopic and retracted for the purpose of space saving at the Show? |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 09 Mar 13 at 2:56pm
That's what we do with trailers on bigger boats, RIBs etc. I would think with a bit of thought, there are sensible solutions. Rather than just fitting a bracket for the current sort of trailer board. I don't think my trailer board would be very reliable if kept outside in a salt environment all year round. As a new Sovereign combi is now a grand, it seems worthwhile to go for single vehicle approval if necessary. It's just another half-baked bit of bureaucracy. |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 10 Mar 13 at 7:20am
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with a boat on the trailer whats wrong with hanging the board on the boat as we've all done for decades? If the board works noones going to stop you because your trailer is too new. When there isnt a boat on the trailer use the brackets. Simple :)
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Posted By: Wetabix
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 8:12am
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I would love to do a deal with the government - I'll make my trailer roadworthy if you fix the holes in the road. Parts of the A9 near Aviemore are impassable to anything which has not got modern suspension including many cars. An unloaded trailer is airborne most of the time unless ballasted. George Morris Weta 117
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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:01am
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We had a classic in the village of the damned this weekend. One of our custodians of the country side damaged themselves. The road to the farm was so badly maintained that the ambulance couldn't get down it. In the end all was well due to the efforts of the paramedics (well done guys), but the alternative was an air ambulance at vast expense. While I agree about enforcement, surely this should have priority over spending money on regulations and their enforcement which will do nothing. Basically people who maintain their trailers and equipment always did because they want to arrive with the least amount of trouble and drama, people who cobbled it together with hope and bailer twine always will, no matter what regulations are introduced! It is the human condition. ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:06am
Hmm hope and bailer twine, am I ever going to get the hang of all these highly technical Finn boy terms. So Bailer Twine, let me guess it stops the bailer floating away when you go over? 
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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:11am
 ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:21am
| Remote opening and closing of bailers? Not by Radio Control by any chance? Sounds like an opportunity for a wizard wheeze if the frequencies could be swapped... |
Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:45am
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Wizard wheeze - Is that a Molesworth reference? Excellent! I've got an 80s boat-pimping book that advocates removing self-bailer handles, and attaching a thin rope to pull it shut remotely. You tread on it to open. Interesting... Back on topic, the new boat trailer regs only apply to new trailers, so the poor amongst us can continue to hang lighting boats on the rudder pintles.
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Posted By: Moppo
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 10:48am
Ah, baler twine and hope; the two things that held my trailer and lighting board together when some numpty inexplicably failed to spot the huge trailer attached to the back of the Land Rover. Happy days... ------------- B14 694 |
Posted By: johnreekie1980
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 11:15am
| It seems that the companies who have invested in complying to the new standards will potentially be undercut by those who don't using a concession albeit this is time limited. I don't think that the regs are that onerous and will be beneficial to drive up standards. I am all for individuals choosing there own path in life however would rather not be wiped out by others errant trailers and loads whilst using the road network. Unless of course the penalties are of a Soudi Arabia nature and the compensation eye watering:) |
Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 12:26pm
One fears that new regs will only be applied by those already doing a good, safe job and the ones who don't care, still won't. Enforcement will be limited to soft targets, because it's easy. You may think me a cynic, well you are right ------------- Finn GBR16 Thunder Road. |
Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 11 Mar 13 at 7:31pm
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I have just looked at my Sovereign Graduate combi bought about a year ago. It has the brackets for the trailerboard structure, but the lashing eyes prevent it being slid in, so its either on or off-no adjustment. Not great. What a load of unnecessary legislation. Good combi though. ------------- Stewart |