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Topic: Winter races
Posted By: D-fore
Subject: Winter races
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 10:21am
I am just returning to dinghy racing and was wondering if there is a list of winter races out there somewhere. I have the dates for the Hoo Freezer, but was wondering if some of the old races are still run, Brass Monkey etc. I need dates due to working abroad (need to make sure I am home!!)
Cheers in advance!


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 10:25am
The more popular ones run under the SailJuice series, but do take a look at local club websites to see if they're doing an open races.  I know Royal Harwich YC used to run an open day race on Boxing Day, not sure if it still does...

http://events.sailracer.org/eventsites/content.asp?eventid=51516&id=20242 - http://events.sailracer.org/eventsites/content.asp?eventid=51516&id=20242


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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 10:53am
You can strike the Hoo Freezer off your list; apparently it's been cancelled as the new owners of the Hoo marina (where visiting boats are based for the event) have decided to be @r53holes

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Posted By: rogerd
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 1:02pm
If your south or southwest theres the Starcross Steamer 20th January, Exmoor Beastie at Wimbleball normally March


Posted By: JRW1019
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by pondmonkey

I know Royal Harwich YC used to run an open day race on Boxing Day, not sure if it still does...


The RHYC clubhouse is currently being rebuilt, but I believe the Boxing Day race is still being held as usual and HW is only 20 minutes before the start this year!


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Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 3:23pm
I'm looking at doing the Snowflake series at Chichester Yacht Club, did a few some years ago, great fun, two short races a day and dozens of boats on the water.
That just leaves the low tide weekends to fill...


Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by rogerd

If your south or southwest theres the Starcross Steamer 20th January, Exmoor Beastie at Wimbleball normally March
 
Beastie is 24 March.


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 4:30pm
I have booked the travelodge for the Brass Monkey.  I am also listed for the GGP.  What happened to the Pompey Perisher?  I used to like that one, though launching and parking were a PITA.

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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by winging it

I have booked the travelodge for the Brass Monkey.  I am also listed for the GGP.  What happened to the Pompey Perisher?  I used to like that one, though launching and parking were a PITA.
 
Portsmouth City Council is, I believe, what 'happened' to the perisher, but I could well be wrong... usually am!
 
Shame, t'was a good event with the added bonus of ferry and hovercraft dodging and bemused spectators on the front there 


Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by winging it

I have booked the travelodge for the Brass Monkey.  I am also listed for the GGP.  What happened to the Pompey Perisher?  I used to like that one, though launching and parking were a PITA.


The Perisher suffered from too many cancellations and the host club drifting away from dinghy racing. When it started (a very long time ago) there was very little racing in the winter, on the sea. It was a fun event serving the locals. By the end, there were several winter series in a ten mile radius and the competitors were mostly coming a long way. Some of them, being inland sailors, thought the club were too willing to cancel at the top end of a F5, despite a lot of people not being able to cope with the sea state.
There has been talk of resuscitating it, but not this winter.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 9:56pm
D-fore, I see you are in Kent.  How about doing some of the Bough Beech Icicle series.   It is an Open Event running from 06/01/2013 to 24/02/2013, i.e. 16 races over 8 Sundays and attracts a good quality entry from a number of sailors from all over the area. (There is some history here: apparently BBSC started life as a winter only club for refugees from sea sailing.)  You dont't have to do them all: usual 50% of races sailed +1 to count.  NOR:  http://www.boughbeechsc.org.uk/uploads/EventDocs/NOR%20Icicle%202013.doc - http://www.boughbeechsc.org.uk/uploads/EventDocs/NOR%20Icicle%202013.doc

 



Posted By: D-fore
Date Posted: 04 Dec 12 at 10:46pm

Thank you for the info, I am suprised that the Hoo Freezer has been cancelled. Maybe Wilsonian SC will take it on, although they may struggle with getting a large number of boats up their track.

I thought BBSC was mainly for Wayfarers during the winter. I am also not to keen on Bewl Water.
 
 


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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 7:27am
There is far more than wayfarers doing the BBSC Icicle, have a look at last years result as proof:

http://www.boughbeechsc.org.uk/uploads/eventdocs/icicle%20final%20con%202012.csv
http://www.boughbeechsc.org.uk/uploads/eventdocs/icicle%20final%20asy%202012.csv


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 8:32am
Originally posted by D-fore

Thank you for the info, I am suprised that the Hoo Freezer has been cancelled. Maybe Wilsonian SC will take it on, although they may struggle with getting a large number of boats up their track.

I thought BBSC was mainly for Wayfarers during the winter. I am also not to keen on Bewl Water.
 
 


According the Wilsonian Newsletter, they still have the Hoo Freezer advertised.
http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk/media/magazines/Winter-2012.pdf - http://www.wilsoniansc.org.uk/media/magazines/Winter-2012.pdf


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Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 12:36pm
the cancellation was only announced yesterday!

Ian


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Posted By: D-fore
Date Posted: 05 Dec 12 at 4:38pm
My problem is I can only do one off races due to working abroad. A series of races would be a waste of money. 
New genoa arrived today though!!!!!!!!Clap


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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 1:03pm
The Hoo Freezer will unfortunately not take place in 2013.

Wilsonian have looked at taking it on (they've done the race management side of things for years), but it was too short notice considering the number of visitors, catering, paperwork and the number of rescue boats that are needed for this winter event.  Had it been summer it might just have gone ahead.

They very much hope to run the event in 2014, however, when it should be possible to make it bigger and better than ever. In the past race and course length have been necessarily limited by the need for boats, competitor and committee alike, to get in and out of Hoo Ness Marina.  Without that limitation new opportunities arise.


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Posted By: Moppo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 12 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by D-fore

My problem is I can only do one off races due to working abroad. A series of races would be a waste of money. 
 
BBSC does have the option of a pay-and-play during our Icicle series, £5 gets you a day's good quality racing. Sure, there are other Clubs you could sail at, but our pies are far tastier...


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Dec 12 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by winging it

I have booked the travelodge for the Brass Monkey.  I am also listed for the GGP.  What happened to the Pompey Perisher?  I used to like that one, though launching and parking were a PITA.


The Perisher suffered from too many cancellations and the host club drifting away from dinghy racing. When it started (a very long time ago) there was very little racing in the winter, on the sea. It was a fun event serving the locals. By the end, there were several winter series in a ten mile radius and the competitors were mostly coming a long way. Some of them, being inland sailors, thought the club were too willing to cancel at the top end of a F5, despite a lot of people not being able to cope with the sea state.
There has been talk of resuscitating it, but not this winter.

The Perisher has been revived... and will be hosted by Hayling this February. I think there will be a formal announcement soon but Portsmouth have given their blessing and it will see the return of a large pursuit to the Portsmouth area. 

"First sailing event of the 2013 Club season will be the new HISC Perisher Pursuit Open Race on Saturday 16 February"  http://www.hisc.co.uk/ - http://www.hisc.co.uk/


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 23 Dec 12 at 7:11pm
Excellent news!  Hope to get down for that one!   is it hoping to become part of the sailjuice series?  would be great to have a sea venue.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23 Dec 12 at 7:55pm
At first we had the same thought as there is no doubt at HISC that sailjuice is an excellent series, however, we soon realised it didn't fit with the 'great lakes' handicapping as HISC has it's own handicaps based upon a some basic tidal assumptions. The Sailjuice uses a shared handicap base upon handicaps specifically for large lakes for the 'top' of each class. I also believe (but may be corrected) that part of the sailjuice idea was to have series hosted in central inland locations.

I'm not sure if it was ever 'pitched' to sailjuice, but i think there was some consultation to make sure no dates clashed. 

I think for this year the focus is on making it a cracking event in it's own right. If it's good it'll find it's place in the calendar whether that be part of a series or not.



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