Olympic Windsurfing Restored
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Topic: Olympic Windsurfing Restored
Posted By: Telltale
Subject: Olympic Windsurfing Restored
Date Posted: 10 Nov 12 at 8:52pm
| http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/20284543 - It's back! Having seen the kitesurfing race video one can only feel a sense of relief, or am I just an old fuddy duddy out of touch? |
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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 10 Nov 12 at 8:59pm
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Well I think it's great news - not necessarily because of a dislike of Kitesurfing, but because of the way the decision was made, seemingly overnight with little or no consultation, to eject a whole sport. I'm sure thee will be a place in the Olympics for Kitesurfing in the future, but this should only be in addition to the current catagories, IMHO. ------------- |
Posted By: E.J.
Date Posted: 10 Nov 12 at 9:01pm
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'The Spanish Sailing Federation has since acknowledged that its representative voted for kiteboarding by mistake'.
Sound like an easy mistake to make?! ------------- |
Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 10 Nov 12 at 9:02pm
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Some sense in what has been a bonkers week. ------------- Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else |
Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 9:36am
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actually the sensible decision would be to chuck both out and keep the Elliot match racing and add a men's match racer or retain the star based on a straight demographic vote. There are far more people around the world who race on keelboats than on kites and windsurfers combined. Windsurfing and kitesurfing- neither are truly represented by ISAF 'board sailing', with or without the mast, raced on grotesquely large boards that no one would want to actually choose for fun. However I don't deny that there could be an argument for slalom and/or freestyle kite and windsurfing, just not under ISAF jurisdiction and the restrictions implied by the geography of the sailing regatta. However the IKA are riding coat tails rather than speaking with the IOC directly and I don't think there's even a credible windsurfing organisation out there who could engage with the IOC.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 10:25am
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Well news buzzing the inter web this morning is of the IOC not being happy at all with ISAF for reversing their decision, with the reminder that sailing is boring and the idea was to jazz up the format to make it more watchable, so they can rake in more TV bucks.
So maybe they'll have to chuck those Finnboys out after all to make way for a kite medal. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 10:34am
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I can't see ex-Finn medalist and current president of the IOC, Jacques Rogge, condoning that type of talk... hey Rodney? ------------- |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 10:39am
The thought that the notably bureaucratic IOC mioght have any opinion at all this early in the game is a pretty amusing one, isn't it:-) What's the betting this is people spreading the stories they want to hear? |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 10:56am
Oh dear, then it probably doesn't bode well for the 470 then does it, one of them will have to go, it'll either be that or the entire circus gets ditched, the bearded one isn't going to be happy with things as they stand and you saw what happened after he lost his rail bid.  ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 10:58am
| ISAF 'restores' Olympic windsurfing over kitesurfing..... Ha Ha Ha, Ha Ha Ha.... |
Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 11:09am
And as for the poor kiteboarders who had started there training I bet you most of them had transferred from windsurfing. Now they are just going back to where they came from. ------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 1:41pm
It's certainly a funny old world when in 2016 the boards used will be materially slower around a course than those used in the mid 1980s and just as divorced from the recreational end of the sport as were those wobbly Division IIs. |
Posted By: Xpletive
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 6:58pm
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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 7:08pm
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Still chuckling at this, just seemd kind of inevitable to me. I guess kite surfing can try and go back to being kewell and plank sailing can continue to wonder what the RSX has got to do with the rest of them... much the same as we've been wondering what the Star, Finn, 49er and 470 have to do with <most> of the rest of us for some time.... Least the N17 stayed in the line up, binning cats again would have been as dumb as it was the last time round IMO. Still a wonder that the 49erFX got in opposed to the 900 or Aura.... hey ho.
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 8:26pm
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getafix: the choice of women's skiff was pretty clearly a case of practicality- picking the boat that already was in the olympics, that already had a global build and supply chain in place. Though if you read the actual reports, the Aura didn't exactly sparkle- good looks, but I think the Rebel was liked better by the sailors ------------- -_ Al |
Posted By: MANNE
Date Posted: 12 Nov 12 at 9:02pm
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The 49er FX was chosen because that was what the sailors wanted at the test event in Spain in april, of the 18 sailors giving their preferences 11 had the FX as their first choice, 7 as their 2nd choise, none 3rd choice The numbers were in summary: 49erFX 11-7-0 RS900 6-6-6 Rebel 1-6-11 29erxx 2-0-0 Aura 0-0-1 Arup 0-0-0 |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 13 Nov 12 at 8:56am
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The comments in the reports were more telling than the numbers... I'd respectfully suggest that some of the sailors voted not for what they enjoyed sailing most but what they thought was expected of them. I'm not suggesting corruption or anything, merely that they thought through the practical aspects as well and allowed it to influence their voting (I'm convinced that's the case in the two first choice 29erXX votes!) ------------- -_ Al |