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    Posted: 14 Jun 13 at 8:29pm
Looks like a fixie or bmx saddle charge bucket? The charge spoon or knjfe probably best for mtb or roadie

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Ah yes. I have the spoon for mtb
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Driving around London this weekend, what gene of f**kwit has embedded itself in the local cyclists's DNA?

Honestly, they were a nightmare- no signalling, cycling through the inside of junctions, weaving traffic like it's slalom downhill session...  I used to do a lot of driving in London for work, and there always were cyclists and in the main never had any issues, bar the odd courier bike trying to make a bonus.  However these swarms of (predominantly male cycle nerds) all on superGhey road bikes or uber-uncool fixies with orange wheels, seem to have taken over, even through semi-pedestrianised areas.

Is there a group think going on that says they're:

a) never in the wrong
b) never going to die
c) morally superior due to the green agenda, therefore exist in a different space/time continuum from the rest of the road users?

Honestly, I felt sorry for the cabbies and bus drivers... what a nightmare dealing with them everyday.


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new bike, yay!





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Originally posted by yellowwelly


Driving around London this weekend, what gene of f**kwit has embedded itself in the local cyclists's DNA?
Honestly, they were a nightmare- no signalling, cycling through the inside of junctions, weaving traffic like it's slalom downhill session...  I used to do a lot of driving in London for work, and there always were cyclists and in the main never had any issues, bar the odd courier bike trying to make a bonus.  However these swarms of (predominantly male cycle nerds) all on superGhey road bikes or uber-uncool fixies with orange wheels, seem to have taken over, even through semi-pedestrianised areas.
Is there a group think going on that says they're:
a) never in the wrong
b) never going to die
c) morally superior due to the green agenda, therefore exist in a different space/time continuum from the rest of the road users?
Honestly, I felt sorry for the cabbies and bus drivers... what a nightmare dealing with them everyday.



Yep.. that's about the size of it.... and we get the green lane peloton version... on a day out from the city... Nightmare.
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Originally posted by yellowwelly


Driving around London this weekend, what gene of f**kwit has embedded itself in the local cyclists's DNA?
Honestly, they were a nightmare- no signalling, cycling through the inside of junctions, weaving traffic like it's slalom downhill session...  I used to do a lot of driving in London for work, and there always were cyclists and in the main never had any issues, bar the odd courier bike trying to make a bonus.  However these swarms of (predominantly male cycle nerds) all on superGhey road bikes or uber-uncool fixies with orange wheels, seem to have taken over, even through semi-pedestrianised areas.
Is there a group think going on that says they're:
a) never in the wrong
b) never going to die
c) morally superior due to the green agenda, therefore exist in a different space/time continuum from the rest of the road users?
Honestly, I felt sorry for the cabbies and bus drivers... what a nightmare dealing with them everyday.

 

  

Yep.. that's about the size of it.... and we get the green lane peloton version... on a day out from the city... Nightmare.

I do a huge amount of riding in london, and I agree to some extent - you see some horrendous roadcraft.  Once a month you normally pass someone being scraped off the road and put into an ambulance bit by bit.  But to play devils advocate and add some perspective:

1.  No signalling.  You can always spot the newbies, they ride along and pop their arm out straight like it says in the highway code.  They keep doing it until they get t**tted by a motorbike or a wing mirror, then they stop.

2.  Going up the inside at junctions - I don't do it because I don't have a death wish, but when councils have painted a cycle lane down the left side of a road, and there's stop start traffic so the bikes are making progress through the cars it's not exactly surprising.  The only other option is...

3.  Weaving in and out of cars - sucks that you're stuck in traffic and they're not eh  LOL  Also note the massive conflict between moaning about this and moaning about point 2...

I think a healthy dose of realism is needed here - in London driving isn't like driving anywhere else. Nobody follows the rules whether on bike or in car.  If put on your bobby hat and start counting traffic offenses to the letter of the law, you might end up quite shocked.  Roughly 4-5 cars jump every red light on my commute, cars stop over the stop lines every time, motorbikes burn off like they're on an italian racetrack, bikes hop on and off pavements, pedestrians run out in front of approaching traffic.  Massive blinkers required to think that bicycles are the problem.


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I like the last bit- but London's arguably easier to drive in than Paris, but the French (for all their many faults) don't appear to have this attitude amongst their cyclists- well not the last time I drove through Paris.

BTW if you want scary, no rules driving try Athens.... 'King hell!!!!!
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At least these guys aren't out in their massive chelsea tractors or whatever londoners drive these days...
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Originally posted by bustinben

 
2.  Going up the inside at junctions - I don't do it because I don't have a death wish, but when councils have painted a cycle lane down the left side of a road, and there's stop start traffic so the bikes are making progress through the cars it's not exactly surprising.  The only other option is...

3.  Weaving in and out of cars - sucks that you're stuck in traffic and they're not eh  LOL  Also note the massive conflict between moaning about this and moaning about point 2...


RE point 2 - If there is a cycle lane fair enough. It is when there is not and you pull away to find someone undertaking you on a bike who then proceed to shout and scream at you when clearly they must have been able to see the traffic moving off yet still elected to try and squeeze down the inside.

RE point 3 - Cyclist who do this in stop start traffic just have a death wish and it is simply a matter of time before their luck runs out and they require scraping off the road. It is, of course, always the car drivers fault as it is when there is a collision between a car and a motorbike.....
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