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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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No real point to this post but you can read it if you want.
As some of you already know I've bought myself an asymmetric vortex to sail. Not because I really wanted one but just because I wanted a cheap, easy to sail single hander with a kite, that I could race in our fast fleet. And the Vortex seemed to fit the bill perfectly
First impressions were as i expected frustrating as being basically being a cat it doesn't give me the feedback that I'm used to but i have to say I'm getting to like it, even more so after this weekend. I don't think any one would describe a Vortex as a true apparent wind boat. It clearly makes use of the apparent wind but you wouldn't put it in the same list as say a 49er, 14, moth or perhaps an 800. However because it sticks more than most in lighter winds it gains more than most when it unsticks so you end up giving much more thought to the apparent wind than its performance on paper might suggest. And being nice and stable you have plenty of the time to think about these things rather than worrying about trying to stay upright. So I guess my point is if your looking for something fast cheap and relatively easy as I was dont just discount the Vortex because its a cat, there is still plenty of fun to be had. Ian |
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Ginge ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 28 Dec 11 Location: Isle Of Axholme, Doncaster Online Status: Offline Posts: 117 |
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Just being nosey here.. Did you buy it last sunday from beaver?
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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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No, I bought it six weeks ago from Hartlepool but due to other commitments havent had a chance to use it much so far.
But I'll hopefully be sailing it now though to Easter at least :-) Ian
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mangoman ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 09 Location: norfolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 69 |
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I've been telling him for years what a great boat it is so it's good to see I have finally talked Ian round to getting one !!
Now all we need to do is convince GRF and get him sailing on the Medway as well ..... |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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nice one Ian... I've heard a lot of folks say the Vortex was the boat that could have 'almost been perfect'. That tends to be heavier guys though, so I guess some of those anti-lightwind comments are less relevant.
Glad you're enjoying an asymmetric anyway. Jimbo edit- and yes Grumpf should get one for the Sea sailing.
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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perhaps if it was a little longer and carried a bit more sail area upwind, with maybe a lighter mast?
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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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Its a long way from perfect and as getafix suggests it would definitely benefit from a bit more length and a better rig... although at my weight the sail area is about perfect.
So you do need to accept that it will never sail like a dinghy but if you do then there is plenty of fun to be had. My first sail was on a light and fluky day and Mangoman was pretty much packed away and showered before I even made it to the beech, which at the time was very frustrating. But then I look back on it and realise that it was a pleasant enough sail and that the guy how had recently bought a 700 capsized at least twice and probably arrived back much colder and wetter than I was so perhaps it could have been worse. Second sail was in 25knts plus and was pretty full on. I went into irons on pretty much every tack and again could have got back pretty frustrated... but then again if I had bought a 700 or perhaps another Musto i doubt I would have made it off the beech, so again it could have been a lot worse. And then last weekend we had 7-10 mph lots of sunshine and with the Vortex unsticking and starting to shift when the 800's were still struggling to get planing efficiently I started to realise that as long as you can accept its many short comings there is actually a lot of good sailing and fun to be had for not that much money. As i say... it could be worse. Ian
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simonrh ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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I miss my Vortex, we had some good sailing her and me
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