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    Posted: 02 Dec 12 at 7:31pm
You presume too much Ed, my other boat is a RS800, and a Wayfarer, and a Lymington Scow. Can't have too many boats!
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Oh, yes, very much a dinghy industry type is Mr Ash-Vie. 

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As a opposed to if I were running Dakine and only went and found out someone had stuck my brand all over them RS100s.... Hell, I dunno what I'd do ;-)
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If I were running Harken and found out somebody had fitted my brand to a Solo and a Lavendar Dilly Dilly coloured one at that, I'd have to buy it back, remove all the fittings, destroy the boat and pay a hit man to take out the offender in case he tried to do it again.
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Originally posted by 2547

Shows may have been good for flogging beach toys but people don't get into dinghy sailing on a whim at a show. The network of clubs need to be the way into the sport. Clubs need to burn the members only signs and throw open ithe doors. 
I don't know how many clubs still fly the "Members Only" sign but I guess not many. Most nowadays say "New Members Welcome".
 
I think the sailing holiday companies would be better placed to exhibit at other shows combined with other outdoor activities.
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I dunno, but my 'sad Solo' is doing far more for Harken directly... quid pro quo, glad they're down to earth supoorting events i'm likely to attend and enjoy reading about, rather than up their arse with marketing hyperbole and dicking around at the LBS with non-customers.
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Shows may have been good for flogging beach toys but people don't get into dinghy sailing on a whim at a show. The network of clubs need to be the way into the sport. Clubs need to burn the members only signs and throw open ithe doors. 
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The problem all these Dinghy Industry types are missing by turning their marketing budget inwards to naval gaze, is the promotion that shows like the LBS give the activity to a wider audience. It was a huge mistake we made in the Windsurfing Industry pulling out.

So right now they all rely on holiday companies attracting punters to take up sailing polyethylene tubs which imv doesn't deliver what we all regard as the dinghy sailing performance, but better than nothing, however taken to it's conclusion, without the sport boat attendance very soon the whole show will close, then there will be nowhere for the holiday companies to peddle their wares.

If they had a structured market, which they don't then they could rely on other forms of promotion throughout the year to encourage new blood, so all that will happen will be the continued slow down, more club driven introduction of brainwashed sad people into Solo's and the like, so how does that help Harken in the greater scheme of things?

Harken as I recall aims at the top end performance market, not much of that going on anywhere else in the world, OK, the dinghy show will once again preach to the converted, but not many new faces there, hardly a premier showcase.

No, it'll be a shame to see the demise of the LBS, big mistake, don't these people ever get together and discuss the actual market they rely on and make sure certain things continue for the common good?

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Well there we have it from the horses mouth ...

I applaud Harken for being able to think different and put together a plan that I am sure will benefit the active grass roots sailors. I have noted they seem to sponsor quite a few events. 
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It is all about getting yer bang for yer buck. It takes us 100 working days and £40k to do LBS properly. So instead we are taking that resource and doing a whole load more yacht club talks, more cruising rallies, more open days, more event sponsorship. Basically spreading our marketing out over a much wider base in a more direct fashion. (Drop us a line if you have an idea that might fit with that concept.)

We are also doing another 18 days of new Industrial Shows, 10 days at Southampton and of course we will be at the Dinghy Show. It is full speed ahead!

Andy (MD Harken UK)
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