The RS100 Owners Thread

Originally posted by Rockhopper Its a shame RS did not get the boat right from the start instead of having all these different rigs making it very hard to people to chose what rig to buy when they buy their boat

Really Rockhopper ? - most people actually think this is one of the best aspects of the boat - being able to choose the rig, which best suits your body weight, sailing location and preferred sailing style. Do you think Laser got it wrong when they introduced the Radial and 4.7 rigs ? Introducing the 7.5 rig further enhances this. Not sure why you think the 7.5 might be a 'bandit'.

As has been stated before the big conclusion to date about the rig size choices and the relative speeds is that there are no conclusions ! The evidence from the Nationals, including the moderate breeze practice day on the Friday is there was no difference at all between the 10.2's and 8.4's - both were going equally well. What was even more interesting was that the body weight split between the classes was also not conclusive - have a look at the full winners photo from Parkstone and you would be very hard pressed to choose which sailor was on which sail !!

Have to say I am confused by the discussion about the need for visual difference between the rigs to ensure the the correct PY is allocated. I sail at several clubs in our area and non of them rely on the OOD recording what the boat model was by visual identification - they record the sail number only. It is the signing on where the boat model and different PY is recorded.

It is going to be interesting to see how the different PY's pan out in 12 months time. I am not aware of any evidence as yet that the 10.2 rig is quicker than the 8.4 in light breezes. I used my 8.4 for the first time last weekend in quite a moderate breeze (10 to 12 knots) and although i felt less powered up than I would have done on the 10.2 I was actually going perfectly well and having studied the results since I see the time margins relative to my usual competitors was pretty much as it usually is. Maybe at 90kg I am marginal weight between the two rigs. 8.4 feels quite a lot more nimble and easier though.

Great sailing regardless.
Chris

RTC racing will always hinder the Assy boats because of lack of space, However I would have throught that Rutland & Grafham both have the space but with other water users out at the same time even they can`t run courses that will suit the Assy boats enough to have a real chance at the series win.

Originally posted by timg ChrisC   Here's a scenario....   A 100 sailor quite legitimately looks at the weather and thinks "i'll use the 7.4 today as it's blowing dogs off chains", but he has signed on for the Wed night series as 10.4 rig. Effectively what he is doing is "opting out" of that race for the series is he not? If the RO cannot tell the difference of rig then he gets a possible great result because he sails a 7.4 rig without capsizing around the course and scores a bullet. So imagine he gets a bullet on handicap? registered as a 10.4 rig for the series then when the PY returns come through it maybe that the 10.4 rig PY comes down further, incorrectly taking into consideration windy events perhaps.   If you chop and change rigs for the wind strength (as is your want) and the sails are clearly marked, then you are entering the series with each different rig and therefore cannot legitiamately get a final result in the series.   Confused? I think I might be....but you can see an issue surely?   Timg

Edited by G.R.F. - 18 Oct 10 at 12:20pm

Tim, this has been my point many times on this thread.  I have not been trying to start arguements or even trying to get a rise out of the 100 boys.  But i am genuinely confussed.  The message is not clear to me.  On one hand we are being told its 2 boats (now 3) and on the other its pick your rig for the weather.  I'm sorry but in my simplistic world you can not have the penny and the bun.  If its to be 3 boats ala Laser.  Then it needs 3 different PY's.  If its one boat with 3 different rigs then the PY will need looking at as undoubtably the smaller rigs will be faster in the bigger winds and the lighter boys will wack a 10.2 up in a drifter, meaning the boat is significantly faster across the board, No (?). 

Originally posted by Merlinboy Tim, this has been my point many times on this thread.  I have not been trying to start arguements or even trying to get a rise out of the 100 boys.  But i am genuinely confussed.  The message is not clear to me.  On one hand we are being told its 2 boats (now 3) and on the other its pick your rig for the weather.  I'm sorry but in my simplistic world you can not have the penny and the bun.  If its to be 3 boats ala Laser.  Then it needs 3 different PY's.  If its one boat with 3 different rigs then the PY will need looking at as undoubtably the smaller rigs will be faster in the bigger winds and the lighter boys will wack a 10.2 up in a drifter, meaning the boat is significantly faster across the board, No (?).    For me its simple if you change a rig halfway through a series you are effectively sailing a different boat and the results should show this.  If you are not informing the RO then you are effectively cheating.