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    Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 3:13pm
It may look a little aggresive, but we like it:



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Think I could make use of that when it's breezy, depends on the course of course.
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Looks great to me and I think it is going to be a great addition for the class helping lighter guys, ladies and youths to join in - the boat is so light, easily driven and easy to handle that there is no reason why it should not be fully accessible to everyone.

I used my 8.4 for the very first time this weekend. Was expecting a big breeze which didn't happen but as I had rigged for the 8.4 decided to go with it anyway in 10 to 15 knot conditions - have come to some very interesting conclusions - whilst it feels 'different' to the 10.2 (lighter, more nimble, easier for tacking and definately easier for gybing, you can get away with dragging the boom) overall in those conditions I would say for me it was equally as quick - certainly no significant difference around a RTC course other than it was easier. Whilst the 10.2 has a more reassuring (for a heavy weight) 'grunt' and feels more solid / less 'lively' I don't think it is any quicker in those marginal conditions.

I would be up for the smaller sail for really breezy days !

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That 7.4 sail looks horrific to me. IMO the D1 small sail looks modern, fresh and like a proper rig, rather than one where someone has used a pair of scissors to remove the roach...

Question: is the RS100 one class, or three?
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Actually it is currently a one class choose your weapon for each event class. 

How it develops is very interesting. If you are a lightweight going to an event with strong wind forecast register with a 7.4, if light winds take the 8.4. Big guy in 12-15knot plus use the 8.4, if brilliant helm or light wind take the big one.

Actually should suit everyone as the hull is so light and easily driven, so make your choice pre event and live with it.

In motor racing you chose your gear ratios for the circuit/hill and your all up weight. I admit that it is more predictable than the wind, but principle is reasonable.

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In some ways I agree, but if it ends up that you need multiple rigs to be competitive is that not cheque book sailing? It is also very confusing as to whether it is then three classes with three PYs, or one class with a single PY that should end up much lower as the rig is optimised to the conditions, sailboard style
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Think I could make use of that when it's breezy, depends on the course of course.

I think you probably could Graeme, sub 70kg.... this'll be a weapon with that lovely big kite to scream downhill.  Although I doubt I'm in the target weight zone for one, even if it were really windy!!!





Ha another thing has just occurred to me, it'll need another PY will it not? A la laser Radial?

I'm thinking 1046 or thereabouts Wink
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Heavy guys: just wait for that 13 m2 sail for F1 conditions!

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Frustrating when that happens isn't it?!
Not having a dig, but if the suggestion is to 'change gears' by altering rig with the wind strength then that requires at least two rigs. To my mind the Laser, Radial and 4.7 model is the one to copy and I believe that is the intention. But it is undermined if people start swapping rigs mid series without declaring to gain advantage and if results don't make clear which rig was used.
What I think I find unsavoury is the thought of either big fellas using the baby rig in a gale or kids using the 10.2 in a drifter. It seems like overly competitive, unsporting conduct. It happens in Lasers too and seems against the spirit of the game to me.
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Originally posted by Peaky

Frustrating when that happens isn't it?!
Not having a dig, but if the suggestion is to 'change gears' by altering rig with the wind strength then that requires at least two rigs. To my mind the Laser, Radial and 4.7 model is the one to copy and I believe that is the intention. But it is undermined if people start swapping rigs mid series without declaring to gain advantage and if results don't make clear which rig was used.
What I think I find unsavoury is the thought of either big fellas using the baby rig in a gale or kids using the 10.2 in a drifter. It seems like overly competitive, unsporting conduct. It happens in Lasers too and seems against the spirit of the game to me.

Seems entirely logical to me, then we've been doing it since year one.

Too much wind change down and carry on racing rather than have to retire.

Except for big fellas of course, they should only be allowed the one big sail, lightweights get to use all three - simples.

As for club racing, as I've forgotten a) the bad time I had last week and b) the name of the boat builder I wanted to build my new steed, I shall buy another rig and use whichever I feel appropriate to the day, given it's all about keeping me entertained rather than worrying about results, series prizes etc, something I've long since given up worrying about, they're a vexation to the spirit. I reckon over 15kts and that 7.4 will be faster at all points of sailing for me, if comparisons with racing sailboards are anything to go by.


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