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    Posted: 19 May 10 at 10:23pm

Whilst clearing the weed from my rudder this evening i managed to snap the tiller in my Winder Kevlar stock (about 1 inch from the stock itself) I think its a right off, and the only way i can see of fixing it is sleeving it internally.  Has anyone ever replaced the tiller itself? Is this possible? 

If not anyone got any recomendations for replacement carbon rudder stocks, to fit milanes foils?
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The winder carbon stocks are much nicer than the kevlar ones, the tiller is carbonm as well, they're a fair bit light than the kevlar stock, & your blade will fit straight in.
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ring winders, the ally tillers on thier fixed blades come out but not sure of the lifting stock.
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I have spoken with Winders, The tiller is not removable.  There is also a 6 week waiting list for a new carbon stock!!

I have spoken with Chipstow today and i am going to send them pictures of the break, hopefully they can remove the tiller and replace it with a carbon version!
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Did the same thing to my Phantom stock. Got some ali tube (ebay) that, unfortunately, was slightly over the i/d of the tube, filed/emery-ed it down to size (bit of a faff), epoxied it inside break, wrap of carbon over join, Bob's one's uncle.

Added weight - negligible; reduced stiffness - un-noticable.
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I have now managed to find the only carbon winder stock in the country (thats available for sale)  So i have ordered it.  My tiller was alloy Alistair, will a carbon wrap work on this???
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Originally posted by Merlinboy

My tiller was alloy, will a carbon wrap work on this???

Inadvisable in salt water.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Merlinboy

My tiller was alloy, will a carbon wrap work on this???

Inadvisable in salt water.

Thats exactly my thoughts Jim, Salt water has already assisted with the destruction of the tiller.  I think i will have a go at removing the old Alloy tiller and replaceing it with a carbon one myself.  If it works then great i have a spare if it doesn't then i can always just bin it! 


Having said that it will probably just sit in my garage now!!
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Any chance when your new stock arrives you can tell us the respective weights of old and new? I'd be intrigued to know how many grams we can save per £.
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No worries MM, i will weigh both of them as blank stocks
i.e. with no blade or mechanism.
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