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Iain C 
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 Topic: 'Wow' BoatsPosted: 13 Sep 07 at 2:15pm |
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Fireball-first time my £100 20 year old woodie planed was amazing...only sailed Toppers, Mirrors and Bosuns on a very small pond and had hardly ever planed! "Slug" Cherub...I've owned a few Cherubs, succesfully campaigned a 2005 rig boat and also sailed Simon's boat with the big 12' skiff rig up (as Jim C mentions), but the fastest, bounciest, scariest ride of all was crewing it in a F6-7 with the little 1997 rags up single wire...it went SO fast it was just unreal, I would estimate probably 25knots or so (I've had 20 out of Suicide Blonde a few times and it was nothing on that!) IACC80-I've been lucky enough to crew and also helm an America's Cup 80...the sheer power and numbers are just mind blowing, for example there are no genoa cleats or self tailers...you just hang onto the sheet which is connected to the genoa, which is basically producing a couple of hundred horsepower, simply by taking five turns around a carbon fibre winch which costs £250,000...nuff said! |
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English Dave
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 1:51pm |
I have actually found it needs greater athletisism to crew a 4000 than a 49er. The 49er's rig "breathes" better so you are not doing so much in-out-in-out (with regards trapezing - wash your minds out with soapy water) as I end up doing on a L4000. |
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mike ellis
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 11:06am |
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so they should have been faster than me. (but i should have been faster than the RS 400s so perhaps i shall keep my mouth shut, but i was faster than some of the 400s...)
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Merlinboy
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 8:38am |
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908! really?
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Ross
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 12:28am |
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4000's PY is 908, I think it should be higher.
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Ross
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BBSCFaithfull
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Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 6:21pm |
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Depends who's sailing them
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mike ellis
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Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 3:46pm |
 all i was saying was that the 4000 i was sailing against seemed slow and i thought they were fast boats, is that mean?
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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tgruitt
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Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 3:44pm |
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ouch, sometimes there are other (nicer) ways of saying what you mean.
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Needs to sail more...
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mike ellis
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Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 3:26pm |
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redback, whats te PY of a 4000? its just because it seemed really slow compared to me in a 600 yesterday but i thought it was meant to be quite quick.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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redback
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Posted: 02 Sep 07 at 2:15am |
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49er for me. Such big sails and still controllable - in fact seemingly so stable and effortlessly fast. The only trouble is it requires strength and agility. I can be nimble for a while and I can be strong for a while but if I try and be both I get knackered in 20 minutes. My son says strength with agility equals athletisism, therefore I haven't got it! I'm afraid I have to agree but it hasn't stopped me from sailing a 49er again. Perhaps I'll stick to this. |
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