Not so much what you sail as how you sail
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Topic: Not so much what you sail as how you sail
Posted By: Do Different
Subject: Not so much what you sail as how you sail
Date Posted: 19 May 12 at 9:33pm
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470 Worlds, UK Clarke & Mills. Finn Gold Cup, UK Ainslie. Old classes well sailed.  |
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Posted By: Max McCarthy
Date Posted: 21 May 12 at 5:29pm
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I agree, depending on how well you do, really is down to the skill of the sailor, not the boat they are sailing ------------- Vintage skol moth 3438 |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 May 12 at 6:44pm
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I'd say it was not so much what you sail as against whom you are sailing.
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Posted By: r2d2
Date Posted: 21 May 12 at 11:29pm
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this is probably the most negative thread ever |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 May 12 at 11:34pm
The word "not" is used a few times... that what you mean? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: Athene
Date Posted: 22 May 12 at 12:36pm
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I don't think its a negative thread - its an excellent, unbiased, view! Live and let live maybe,
Athene
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Posted By: gordon
Date Posted: 22 May 12 at 8:00pm
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So we are agreed then - no-one can be admitted to any sailing hall of fame before they have won the Star Worlds (1911), the Dragon Worlds (1929) and any one of the "modern" classes - Finn, 505, Snipe, Etchells... To paraphrase a famous quote about the Good Friday agreement "the 470, a Fireball for slow learners" ------------- Gordon |
Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 May 12 at 10:23pm
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If you can win the Star worlds and the 49er worlds (maybe we are talking the helm here, as the crews have somewhat different physiques!) then you should really be called a true master. Anyone even tried?
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Posted By: gordon
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 7:44am
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Elvestrom won the Star Worlds and the 505 Worlds - he helmed the 505 from the trapeze! Does this count! ------------- Gordon |
Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 8:55am
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The day someone wins the Laser Worlds and a Racing Sailboard Worlds will be the day we've found a genuine sailing legend, until that day 'they' are all minority class champions.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 9:07am
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Ah, there goes GRF mistaking windsurfing for dinghy sailing again - different sport, different magazine, different website. I'd forgotten the Elvstrom Star/505 thing - yes, it counts! Just need someone as good to do it again - puts Ainslie in perspective... be interesting to see what would happen if he spent a couple of years sailing skiffs, though? ------------- Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686 |
Posted By: gordon
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 9:20am
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How about Slingsby winning the Etchels Worlds and the Laser Worlds in consecutive weeks? I would agree that the physical capacities and skill set required to succeed in air rowing and sailing are not the same. It would seem the air rowers are amongst the fittest sportsmen at the Olympics. ------------- Gordon |
Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 12:47pm
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Not that much as different a sport as you might realise, well one facet of it isn't. It is the purest form of sail racing there is, there are a lot of similarities I've come to realise, agreed in a total pumpfest it's different, but the energy expended is no different to that which Ben Ainslie is expending nor I guess the Laser dude who's name escapes me temporarily when he's in full flight. Everything else is the same, in some areas easier than dinghies in other areas dinghies are more difficult, but the final goal is identical, i.e. that of beating others over the water on similar equipment a good 'sailor' per se will always be better than a none sailor at either pursuit. ------------- https://www.ease-distribution.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ease-distribution.com/ |
Posted By: gordon
Date Posted: 23 May 12 at 1:04pm
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An elegant plea - however the Finns allow unrestricted pumping only when there is lots of wind, not as a substitute when there is no wind.
------------- Gordon |