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Topic: moving on
Posted By: sam knight
Subject: moving on
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 1:35pm

I currently sail toppers on a small lake inm birmingham. unfortunatly i am small for my age, but all my friends have moved into lasers. i am nearly 15, but weigh just under 50 kilos. I have sailed rs600s and 200s, and enjoy sailing them but i am way to small for them.  i'm not too bothered what i move into, as long as it is faster than a topper. Any suggestions please?

 




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Posted By: southcoast
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 4:28pm
maybe a laser 4.7 they have a very fast growing fleet and can be good fun although i would say that the speed would not be that much different. You could go for a good old moth which would give you hours of fun and swimming but im sure there are many more options. Just out of interest how did u find the rs600 as i weigh 67kg and might be getting one soon. Cheers


Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 4:48pm

I capsized alot, even though it was just about a force 2, but it was loads of fun.

 



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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 9:31pm
Don't bother with laser 4.7 coz the sail is smaller than that of a topper... u considered doublehanders? They're gd fun and lots more sociable! I got sam e prob as u weight wize, but i sail firefly, n mirror... fireflies are v fast n fun.

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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail


Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 9:51pm

my dad can sail with me, but he would like a laser 4000.

 



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Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 10:13pm

how much do you and your dad weigh?

when i was around 50kg, i used to sail an rs200 with my helm who was 65kg...we managed ok upto a F6!

I could suggest the Byte?....or the 4.7, it may have a smaller sail than the topper, but it's still quicker!

I would suggest the Cherub as a double hander, or maybe the rs feva?

Kasey.



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Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 07 Aug 05 at 10:24pm
Together we probebly weigh 120kilos plus. i've just come back from a week of sailing 200s, and me and a mate took it out in a force 4, gusting 5. some of the most fun i'v had on a boat!

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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 12:09pm
Bit of a difference between a cherub and rs feva methinks... i kept up with a feva in a topper...

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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail


Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 6:53pm
 or u could do what im doin from fevas - 200s - 29ers... ill only b in the 200 4 a year tho and do the europeans which are in.... lake garda!!! straight before the topper worlds... i cant decide which europeans to do tho - if its windy u no... either in the feav or 200 cos they r on at the same time but at diff clubs...

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Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 09 Aug 05 at 10:22pm
The topper worlds arent definately im lake garda next year, they are likely to be in NZ but nothing is definate yet. There wasnt topper worlds this year because they had the europeans in blessington in ireland (next week) which follow on from the nationals. You never have euro's and worlds on in the same year.

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Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 10 Aug 05 at 12:42pm

Originally posted by HannahJ

Bit of a difference between a cherub and rs feva methinks... i kept up with a feva in a topper...

the cherub and feva may be totally different boats, but then it depends on your sailing ability, weight and boat style preference!.....and the feva is made of plastic

@ 120kg, I'd say you're to heavy for a Feva.....but bang on for the lighter weight's in the 200.....or perfect for a cherub!

It depends if you want to be extremely competitive, cos if you do....@ 120kg, you'll lose out to the big guys like Pete Vincent and Ian Pickard in the 200 as soon as it gets above F6....and the 200's still race in F7+!

So a Cherub would be better for that reason...(plus the boat is sooooo quicker and all round nicer to sail!)....I'm selling my 200 to get a cherub!

You would prob be too light for a 4k above F3....I used to race one and my helm and I were nearly 130kg and we strugled above a F4.....was fun but we really had to work hard to keep up with the big guys! the other bad thing about the 4k is if ur light...u hav to use those awful lead weigts.....they make the boat slow and they look ugly!

Kasey



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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 11 Aug 05 at 5:31pm
if you want a single hander buy a laser 4.7 they are far more powerfull and faster than a topper or a int moth if you want to be a bit different. if you want a double hander buy a cherub a 200 is quite boring! lol

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Posted By: woody292
Date Posted: 30 Aug 05 at 8:23pm
you could go 4 a hobie 405 depending on how big ur crew/ helm is


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 30 Aug 05 at 10:28pm

One of the problems with the 4000 might be righting it.  I think you probably need 70kgs on the board to stand any chance of getting it upright again.

Do you intend sailing on open water or a pond?



Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 02 Sep 05 at 6:08pm

hopfully somewhere like draycote.

 



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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Sep 05 at 8:39pm
Sam, if you and your dad weigh 120+ kilos, you might get away with a 4000. We sailed the 5000 weighing 135 kg to start off with and the 4000 is the design for lighter weights.  If your Dad crews & you helm, the 4000 might be worth looking at. The best advice you could get is from contacting the 4000 class association because they are the people who know the boat inside out and will be able to reccommend if the boat is suitable for you.

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