wanderer vs Gull
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Topic: wanderer vs Gull
Posted By: Baz
Subject: wanderer vs Gull
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 1:34pm
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Hello to you all,
My search is narrowing down to a wanderer or a gull sailing dinghy. Again im looking for a dinghy to singlehand mostly and occasionally with two, on the sea on the southwest coast of ireland. I will be inside the harbour mouth mostly but even then our average wind speeds tend to be quite high. My question now is a wanderer to big to sail singlehanded or move about on beaches/slipways. (Im 60 kgs) Is the gull too small or just perfect?
Thanks again for alll your replies.
Baz
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 1:48pm
If it were me, I'd go for the Gull, but a Wanderer would increase your cruising range, at the price of being harder to handle alone, both on and off the water. They aren't light boats, Wanderers.
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 2:16pm
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One caveat would be performance. If you're able to plan your journeys and take advantage of the tide then its not an issue, but slogging in against a strong tide might be less of a struggle in a Wanderer. But on the whole I reckon for the job described I'd look at a Gull out of the two.
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 7:24pm
Yep, Gull for the smaller solo sailor.
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the same, but different...
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Posted By: SoggyBadger
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 7:43pm
At your weight I'd recommend the Gull.
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
SB
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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 29 Mar 12 at 9:54pm
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Gull it is then. Thankyou for all the advice, time to go get one now. Will let ye know how i get on. Safe sailing, and enjoy the season. Barry
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Posted By: Marlin
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 7:00pm
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How did you get on with the Gull? I too am thinking of a Wanderer of a Gull and at the moment favoring the Gull. Does any one know how stable the Mark 3 is compared to Gull Spirit as it has a rounded hull. Any further comments on stability of Gulls generally would help. I am wanting stability over speed.
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Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 8:00pm
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having sailed both of these a few years ago, the gull is a nice little boat - the wanderer (or at least the one I sailed was pretty horrid.
The gull is a nicer boat to sail than the mirror which I would think would be its obvious competitor. The wanderer is inferior to the miracle, which would be of a similar size I guess
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Posted By: Marlin
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 8:27pm
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Thanks Sawman. This is helpful as the Mirror was something I thought about but only if I found a rare GRP one.
In what way was the Gull nicer than the Wanderer? Was the Gull you sailed a Mark 3 or other? I'm still curious about the stability of a round hull as opposed to the chined hull of the other variants.
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Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 12 May 13 at 10:27pm
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Marlin, I think it was one of the Anglo marine built gulls, not sure what that makes it, I sailed it on the Broads, so cant really comment on stability but it felt fine to me. Its a nice responsive little boat, and feels more like a proper boat than the mirror.
The wanderer I sailed felt heavy, and awkward compared to the Mk1 Kestrel I was sailing routinely at the time. I did only sail it the one day, in very little breeze, which maybe wasnt helpful to it!
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 8:16am
I doubt you'll notice any great difference in the handling between the round bilge and double chined Gulls. I never did in my days sailing them.
Some folks get very excited about differences between chines and round bottom boats, but I'm not very convinced. If the boats have the buoyancy in pretty much the same place then I find they behave much the same whether the corners are rounded off to a 1/4 inch radius or a three inch one - and I bet the latter is all it took Proctor to convert his Gull shape into round bilge.
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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 11:50am
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Hello Marlin, Baz here, I didn't get either of those dinghies last year as, i got engaged instead! In that time though i've decided to go with a miracle dinghy instead, as it seems to suit my needs better. The gull may be too small and a little slow while the wanderer may be too big (heavy). I've bid on two miracles so far and hope to be on the water in one soon, holding out for a GRP one. Best of luck in your search, Baz
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Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 13 May 13 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Baz
Hello Marlin,Baz here, I didn't get either of those dinghies last year as, i got engaged instead! In that time though i've decided to go with a miracle dinghy instead, as it seems to suit my needs better. The gull may be too small and a little slow while the wanderer may be too big (heavy). I've bid on two miracles so far and hope to be on the water in one soon, holding out for a GRP one. Best of luck in your search, Baz
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Good choice Baz,
I bought a miracle on the grounds that it was cheap on ebay and local, and have been impressed by it, its a great little boat
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Posted By: djdhi
Date Posted: 15 May 13 at 9:37am
Nobody mentioned a Heron. Can be got now in Bermudan or gunter rig, wood or plastic, can be sailed fast in F4 or 5 with one or two up, with a choice of jib or genoa has been cruised extensively I'm told on sheltered estuaries.
djdhi
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