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Topic: laser outhaul
Posted By: doeywizard
Subject: laser outhaul
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 7:42am
Hi, 

I have an xd laser and the outhaul system is fine length when it is on my full rig and radial, however I have to improvise this weekend when I put my 4.7 on, I was wandering if any one knew what length the outhaul rope needs to be to go through my xd kit, up the mast, along the boom, then back to the sail, and finally back to the end of the boom.     I would rather it be two long than two short.   



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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 8:35am
Wouldn't you be better off just attaching a short rope tail to your 4.7 sail and leaving the outhaul system the same? The dimension - the difference in foot length...


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 8:53am
We have Spiced rope when we reef topper sails for teaching purposes when it is blowing. If you get the length right it works very well. The only downside is the bungee on the outhaul will be the wrong length to have any effect.


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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 8:57am
Jim, would that be "legal" by class rules?

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Al


Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by alstorer

Jim, would that be "legal" by class rules?
 
No that is not legal but if he isn't racing only training then it will probably be OK.
 
What he needs is 2 primary lines for the outhaul. 1 for radial/std sail and another for the 4.7 sail.
 
In reality even if he did use 2 bits of rope it is unlikely anyone would protest.


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Paul
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D-Zero GBR 74


Posted By: laser47
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 1:36pm
I'm sad enough to know that the difference between the maximum length of the foot of the sails between the big rigs and the 4.7 is about 26cm. So the additional length to be added is at least 26mm. Basically the more "turning points" the more length you will have to add so it really depends if you have the Holt/ Allen style (standard XD) or the Harken/Rooster Style (G-XD) set up.

When you buy a pre-measured rope pack you get  200mm and 600mm so you can fiddle with the  primary (usually the nobbly grey vectran) length. I sailed both 4.7 and radial interchangeably at qualifiers for several years and as a guide I've always used about 165mm on my primary line and 630mm on my secondary (colourful dyneema) line using the G-XD style set up.

Hope that helps :)




... I'll go back to lurking now






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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 10 Jan 12 at 7:29pm
Stop lurking and keep posting.

Thats very useful, unless you are class racing I doubt anyone will bat an eye lid.


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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 11 Jan 12 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by radixon

Stop lurking and keep posting.

Thats very useful, unless you are class racing I doubt anyone will bat an eye lid.
 
Even if you are class racing at a low level most people wont care. It is only when you get to squad level and above that everyone will start to whinge.


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Paul
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D-Zero GBR 74


Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 11 Jan 12 at 4:57pm
I only use the 4.7 when very windy, I will usually use a radial, so the 4.7 will only be used in club racing and I dont think you can put it on at radial evnents  


Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 11 Jan 12 at 4:58pm
Thanks for the advice : ) 


Posted By: laser47
Date Posted: 15 Jan 12 at 4:43am
Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by radixon

Stop lurking and keep posting.

Thats very useful, unless you are class racing I doubt anyone will bat an eye lid.
 
Even if you are class racing at a low level most people wont care. It is only when you get to squad level and above that everyone will start to whinge.


*Insert generic whiney SMODy comment about this kind of attitude undermining the whole idea of the class, being totally against constitution...*Tongue


Think I did a 4.7 series event with a Rooster training sail and some non-builder approved control line modding once... and sooooooooo many people had shackles on their cunningham before the rule change. Nobody cares unless you're winning nationals.....or a complete ****





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