Single hander for lightweights
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Topic: Single hander for lightweights
Posted By: joe94
Subject: Single hander for lightweights
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:20pm
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Hello, have been sailing a laser radial for a couple of years but am beginning to fancy something more interesting and a bit quicker. Problem is i'm 5 foot six and just over sixty kilos so am on the small side. Any suggestions? Cheers joe
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Posted By: Mister Nick
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:27pm
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Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:35pm
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it depends what you mean by more interesting, looks better, faster, fleet racing, technical? the byte CII looks good and looks like a shrunk laser with a huge sail but is slower, you could get a way with a streaker but if it real blows the smaller sail hasn't taken off yet/been released (to my knowledge) so you may struggle. There is a lighting 368 but is slower, still can be a good boat if sailed well. Depending how adventurous there is a musto skiff but again you could still be to light but that is fast, looks good and full of thrills and spills, a challenge to sail. It depends by what you mean by more interesting and are you still growing/ putting on weight. I am weighing 65kg and sail a radial, and a topper, these are both great for fleet racing and it might be as well sticking in your radial (if it is close racing that you want) More detail would help?
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Posted By: themeaningoflife
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:40pm
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Maybe helming for somebody would be useful for you, I know you could find yourself in the perfect weight partnership for a 29er, and probably many other double handed boats. If you can give any more information it would be very useful. ------------- Cambridge University Lightweight Rowing Club RS800 1128 kindly sponsored by http://www.rwo-marine.com" rel="nofollow - RWO Marine |
Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 10:06pm
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Moth...
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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 10:34pm
As Mr nick says, come join the Farr 3.7 revolution .... MWAHAHAHAAAA! I'm building one (to begin with  )------------- |
Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:34pm
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Europe?
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 4:31am
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A europe or a byte c2, both excellent boats for the smaller helm. They're both quite powerful, but the carbon mast on the bye allows you to depower in gusts, while the europe is infinitely tuneable. Where are you based Joe? We have c2s and europes here at Hunts that you'd be welcome to try. Certainly think about a Farr 3.7 longer term, but until they become available or you decide to build one, have a look at what you can get now! ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: joe94
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 4:27pm
| Ok then I'll give a bit more info, I'm almost 18 and judging by my family pretty much stopped growing although may fill out a bit but realistically I'm not going to get much heavier. I used to sail an original byte so am not looking to go back even with the new rig, I'm also looking for hiking dinghies so the farr is out. I just want something quicker than a laser by more interesting I meant something thats a bit more of a challenge/ fun to get round a course. Not definitely giving up on the laser just want too know whats out there. |
Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 4:42pm
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Take up Windsurfing or Kitesurf course racing.. Or wait at least another year before the finest fastest easiest to sail most expensive dinghy ever built is launched... ------------- https://www.ease-distribution.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ease-distribution.com/ |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 5:03pm
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Streaker?
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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 6:05pm
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Defo... Farr 3.7 for me. I'm 5"3' and slightly heavier (should be about your weight really) and I love the Farr. But at the end of the day it depends on your comitment levels. I don't have to be sailing every weekend to be able to keep the Farr upright when I sail it.
If I was as able to be as committed to sailing as I once was, I would probably look at a Moth. I don't think you can have as much fun with your clothes on in any other boat, if you can spend the time to master it, that is. The Farr comes pretty close though when it gets windy. ------------- http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Class Website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1092602470772759/" rel="nofollow - Farr 3.7 Building - Facebook Group |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 6:24pm
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I love my low rider, that's for sure, but i still have a long way to go with it. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: joe94
Date Posted: 28 Nov 11 at 10:38pm
| what do people reckon the minimum weight for a 300 would be? |
Posted By: stewart smith
Date Posted: 29 Nov 11 at 10:28am
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Shadow. ------------- Stewart Smith |
Posted By: joe94
Date Posted: 06 Dec 11 at 4:47pm
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Any thoughts on the 300 weight? |
Posted By: 4ply
Date Posted: 06 Dec 11 at 7:22pm
| I'd say Eurpoe. |
Posted By: E.J.
Date Posted: 06 Dec 11 at 9:58pm
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How is a Europe faster than a Radial? The only dinghy that I can think of that is faster than a Radial, and without trapeze, for your weight range is the Int moth. That is a big step.
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 07 Dec 11 at 6:45pm
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the europe hull is 15kg lighter than a laser hull, the sail area of a europe is 7.1sqm compared to 5.7 for the radial, but the europe is also very easy to depower and very tuneable. Brilliant boats. I don't know where you are Joe, but if you're anywhere near Huntingdon/Cambridge I can fix you up with a sail in one. ------------- the same, but different... |
Posted By: E.J.
Date Posted: 07 Dec 11 at 7:49pm
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lighter, less rag, and brilliant. Agreed, but slower. ------------- |
Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 08 Dec 11 at 8:00am
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And because its lighter, shorter and more responsive you get much more feedback and sensation of speed so if its the feeling of going fast rather than the actual speed thats important then I agree. If its actual speed over the water that you want then you might also consider a Blaze. They are big boats, with a lot of sail for people your size, and you would be well off the bottom of the accepted weight range however if you avoid the really heavy stuff you would manage ok. I've sailed one for years at your height and 70kgs and even though I'm to light for one as well its one of the few boats that I can (and really enjoy) sailing in any wind strength. Ian ------------- RS300 |
Posted By: joe94
Date Posted: 08 Dec 11 at 4:18pm
| Hi thanks for the offer unfortunately I'm in Cumbria, thanks anyway |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 08 Dec 11 at 5:30pm
| If its actual speed over the water you want don't you get a motorboat? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Dec 11 at 11:37pm
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Europe is the perfect fit but i don't know if you have class racing also Moth
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Posted By: Vronny
Date Posted: 12 Dec 11 at 11:04am
| I should just eat more, get fatter and then there are far more options! |
Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 13 Dec 11 at 3:28pm
70kg minimumum for a B rig, though that's still a bit on the light side. Could be 60kg I guess with the smaller A rig. ------------- Steve B RS300 411 https://www.facebook.com/groups/55859303803" rel="nofollow - RS300 page |
Posted By: doeywizard
Date Posted: 14 Dec 11 at 8:16pm
| just out of interest how did you find sailing a radial at just over 60, did it feel ok and in how strong wind could you go out and be competitive at? |
Posted By: Hughph
Date Posted: 14 Dec 11 at 10:58pm
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Doey Wizard, for the Radial I am now 70kg and see myself to be around the optimum wieght, preferably a little lighter but in the heavy stuff I am definately competitive. I reckon the general consensus is around 68kg for the radial- I try to adjust my wieght by a kilo or two in the summer.. Ultimately as long as you are within 63kg + your boathandling will have a bigger effect than you weight, as sailing the boat well is what it is all about! If that's what you need to improve on, I'm offering really good value coaching over the xmas holidays so PM me if you think you might be interested in a session. Cheers PHS ------------- |
Posted By: joe94
Date Posted: 22 Dec 11 at 10:25pm
| Doey Wizard I find the radial ok at my weight, its only when it begins to get really windy that I begin to feel a bit more weight would help. |
Posted By: robin34024
Date Posted: 18 Sep 12 at 7:41pm
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i sail a streaker at 53 or so kg, streight out of toppers and i can just about handle the full rig in anything, and there is a good class association which cannot be said for some other boats such as europes. ------------- |
Posted By: robin34024
Date Posted: 18 Sep 12 at 7:46pm
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whoops, i seem to have missed the fact that no one has posted on this thread for over 6 months. oh well... ------------- |