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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
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Topic: Rather amusing....
Posted By: Jon711
Subject: Rather amusing....
Date Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 11:29pm
In the racing class review in the mag, it list's no current builder for the ISO, BUT, gives a new price of 7 grand... If there is no current builder, how do you get a new one?



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Blaze 711



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Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 12:04am
In the unlikely event of you stumping up £7k, a builder might appear...


Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 12:27am
Dont Wet and Windy in Bristol still market them???

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Posted By: dafox
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 1:01am
i think white formula are making them to order like they did recently with a topper breeze.


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 8:43am
last I knew Rondar had the mould- I think there was a single boat built by them?

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Posted By: furtive
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 9:20am
More amusing, from the Etchells report on the front page:
 
"Pitt**ter skipper Mark Richards, who is taking a break from his Wild Oats Sydney to Hobart race preparations, was seen dashing off to the Fitness First steam room for a tilt at tossing off 3 quick kilos."
 
You'd need a sit down after that...


Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 9:27am
Gotta love the way the "decency filter" has failed to see the wood from the trees on that one (or should that be the wood from the bush...).


Posted By: oldarn
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by dafox

i think white formula are making them to order like they did recently with a topper breeze.


White Formula do make AltOs, a modern version of the ISO!


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Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 2:49pm
... you mean the Alto's made by Topper?   


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 2:50pm


why bother with fussy sail track when you can just tie the sail top and bottom! LOL


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Posted By: oldarn
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by rogue

... you mean the Alto's made by Topper?   

The answer is no, but surely Topper made one or two good boats.

 Search your dinghy park, I bet you will find at least one!


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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by rogue

... you mean the Alto's made by Topper?   
No. White Formula were (are?) a contract boat builder for Topper. They existed before Topper, have built many things other than Toppers/Topper brand boats. They are, for example, rather well regarded in the world of cats, might be something to do with their founder...

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Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 3:52pm
They made the Topper... that was a good boat for its design brief.

Blaze- it had potential, but it took someone else to realise it

Buzz, Iso, Spice & Boss- all had their various shortcomings, feeble boats

Taz- rather have a Tera

Xenon- rather have a Vago

Topaz Uno- rather have a Feva

Cruz- rather not sail





okay, okay Byte- fair enough, good boat, even better now it's not got a topper badge!


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 4:10pm

Not sure of White Formula designed any of those though?



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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 4:48pm
WF didn't design the Tornado either, but some very nice examples came out of there in the 80's and 90's IRC, Hurricane 5.9 is legendary too


Posted By: dafox
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 4:50pm
I know 14 man Ian Howlet Designed the Buss, Iso, Boss, Breeze.


 



Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by dafox

I know 14 man Ian Howlet Designed the Buss, Iso, Boss, Breeze
Not, shall we say, one of the more sparkling eras of 14 design...


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 6:36pm
The White family are still active, RobWhite works for Topper and all sail out of BSC, Essex


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 7:10pm
they also build the Challenger trimaran, which is a great little boat.

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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 18 Nov 11 at 7:34am
Jon Turner co designed the boss. Not his finest hour either!


Posted By: chrisg
Date Posted: 18 Nov 11 at 7:54am
why - what was wrong with it?

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Posted By: oldarn
Date Posted: 18 Nov 11 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by winging it

they also build the Challenger trimaran, which is a great little boat.


And, a good boat is not just about design but also build quality.  New AltO owners are more than pleased with the excellent build quality from White Formula.


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thefastexcitingrunningasymmetric


Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 18 Nov 11 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by radixon

The White family are still active, RobWhite works for Topper and all sail out of BSC, Essex


So does Henry White- left several messages for him when I looked into a Shadow, he never returned calls.

I guess business must be good with all those Asbos they're pumping out...


Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 19 Nov 11 at 9:40pm
Well back to the topic. If you wish to buy a new Byte Ovington will give you a price but to buy a new boat they need an order for 5! So unless you buy 5 and throw 4 away you have a price but effectively no builder.

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tickel


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 Nov 11 at 6:24pm
Looks like you'd have to get a fleet together all at once... could be a tall order. Do you know why they need to build so many?

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: tickel
Date Posted: 20 Nov 11 at 9:47pm
Production cost I presume on such a cheap boat but I hear that B14 suffer as well. It will make it depressing at the Dinghy Show trying to sell a boat which cannot be bought. They do produce bulk orders for the Youth Olympics, Worlds etc. (no worlds this year) and then sell them off afterwards. I wonder if John Claridge or Hartley would like to build another boat? I think Nautiva make them in Italy?

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tickel


Posted By: Dougal
Date Posted: 21 Nov 11 at 8:59am
Is the Rooster 8.1 not a class?  They have open meetings, and a championship I believe?  (or did i just miss it in the review).
 
 



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