selling boats
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Topic: selling boats
Posted By: Rockhopper
Subject: selling boats
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 2:29pm
Is it just me or is it hard work selling boats at the moment as i have had mine up for sale for the past three months with little joy is everyone finding the same or is it just me as i have dropped my price by £995 and still no joy so whats going on  I have another boat lined up but cant buy till i sell mine  ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
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Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 2:59pm
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Not Really i sold my 2 lasers and the 4000 within a week, also sold all my old laser sails and bits still have 3 tillers and set of foils which all sold on ebay, try apollo duck it works well ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 3:31pm
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Lasers are easy to shift, my 700 took ages but eventually someone came from a nearby club. I'd hang on in 5here and advertise in other sc too on their boards ------------- |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 3:52pm
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Yep its on here apollo boatsandoutboards even had it on the class website i dropped my price right down to get a quick sale which so far has not happened but as you say lasers are easy 4000s not that easy but last time i sold ours it went to france and my 5000s went to poland the only person who has shown any real interest is in greece so not great.Still i just about have enough to buy my new boat and i reckon i will have to sit on it and wait and even the extra bit of national champs boat has not worked :( ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: didlydon
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 4:00pm
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Andy. Email me an advert & I'll stick on our noticeboard!  There's a young lad in our club that I've mentioned your boat to, so he's trying to convince his dad it's a good buy! He fancies a Vareo.------------- Vareo 365 |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 06 Sep 11 at 7:31pm
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Hi don just look on apollo duck as it has the most pics on the add 12 in total ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 08 Sep 11 at 9:35am
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Andy- you're not gonna want to hear this but, yes the market is really tight for niche classes right now. You can sell Lasers (sub £1500) really easily, but anything in the £2500-£6k mark is sitting on the market unless you heavily discount.
I sold the cherub for half what I paid for it 4 months prior. I'm not complaining about what I paid for it, at the time it represented good value (so much so I didn't bother to haggle for the usual few hundred quid). Had it have worked out for me, it would still have been the cheapest option to get an 'as new' boat with all that kit without paying any VAT. The Vareo has (and was always going to be) eclipsed by the RS100- new entrants to the class buying new or nearly new (top end 2nd hand) are going to weigh up their options and future proof their investment. This means that a boat of your age will depreciate far faster than the older boats. It's the reason why I sold an as then, similar age RS300- just ahead of the RS100 launch offer. The boat dropped a grand in value almost overnight as soon as the 100 was in the public domain. In my opinion, if you want to shift it, then drop the price to £2k no offers- making your boat stand out from the crowd with its higher sail number, but same price. You ultimately have three options: - sit it out, it will sell eventually (but the 'season' is over and expect a dead patch between now and March 2011). You may end up selling for £2500 next year, and you then have to consider was the extra £500 worth missing your new boat for, especially if there's an insurance renewal/ boat park fee due between now and then. - market it heavily to existing vareo sailors- it's a great upgrade boat without the costs (and depreciation) of a new boat from RS (it might be worth letting it slip you'll take a small hit for an existing vareo sailor) - drop it to 'bargain' money- as I said £2k ought to do it, a good indicator of bargain money is the trade in value at RS- knock a couple of hundred off what the guys in Chandlers Ford are prepared to pay for it- they have an international resale market through their dealer network, unfortunately logistics mean when you market it on your tod, it's only likely to sell to a UK, or maybe a France/Netherlands sailor looking for a bargain. |
Posted By: ob1
Date Posted: 08 Sep 11 at 12:09pm
| rogue mate it is a real shame that your knee problem came back but I hope you still have at least some fondness for the 100? it does have pros and cons like all boats, but it is great fun and isn't all bad |
Posted By: rogue
Date Posted: 08 Sep 11 at 12:23pm
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ob1- very fond of it, would still be sailing it now (on the circuit) if it weren't for the knees!
BTW- the knee problem was the result of extended hiking flairing an old injury. It would be the same in any boat that required hiking all around the course- which unfortunately is what a spinnaker requires! |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 08 Sep 11 at 2:51pm
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Some boats are selling. Some are probably worth significantly less than a year ago, due to money being tight for a lot of used boat buyers. I have to say that the RS100 will probably have reduced the value of Vareos. The writing may not be on the wall yet, but we know what it will say. How many new ones have been sold this year? |
Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 08 Sep 11 at 8:47pm
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I think they have sold quite a few vareos this year as the latest numbers are i think 605 so still selling ok i think its a waiting game for me i will bring it home saturday and stick it in my garage for the time being waiting for that buyer to come along.Seen as i last sailed it in april i am not really losing much ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 8:09am
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They were queuing three deep to buy my RS300 a few months back despite the bullish price. Never known anything like it.
Will be putting a double bottomed N12 on the market soon can't imagine the the phone will be quite so hot but we will see. |
Posted By: RS400atC
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 8:39am
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It has to be said that asking prices of RS400's seem to have fallen in the last year or so. Perhaps a bit of a glut in the used market, as several people around here have bought new ones after the re-vamp. I don't really know what's happening in other classes. |
Posted By: Ian29937
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 10:07am
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Decided to sell our well used Topper at the weekend and it went last night. As has been said before, it's very dependant on the boat and price range. Not all doom and gloom though! Ian
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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 10:26am
hi mate. you can not put a post up like that, with out me asking what you are going to replace the 12 with!  ------------- |
Posted By: Late starter
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 10:59am
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I've bought and sold a couple of boats recently. Cheap Toppers/Picos/Lasers etc seem to be well in demand and sell quickly if priced well. I picked up a very nice (and cheap) Pico for my daughter on ebay the other week, but I've also noticed some of the newer plastic fantastics bid to surprisingly low values on there too. I also sold an Ent recently, which I thought was a reasonable boat at a sensible price, but it took months to shift and in the end I had to drop the price by perhaps a quarter. So the lesson I take from all this is that money is tight, the boats that are selling are those that are well priced, and anything that is over priced will take a long time to move. |
Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 09 Sep 11 at 11:19am
Thought you would bite. Ask Elaine what I am doing this Sunday.
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